Toshinden 1 Toshinden 2 Toshinden 3 Toshinden 4 Battle Arena Toshinden has a special place in my gaming history as it was my first game for PSX, and also the first 3D fighting game I ever bought. It completely sold me on the PSX and I enjoyed it for a long time after I bought it. Naturally I was interested in the BAT sequels which came out over the years, and I played BAT 2 and BAT 3 a bunch. I never really played BAT 4 as my PSX broke by the time it was available, and I had already become disillusioned with the series. It seems to me, that although the sequels had many more characters, the games were of a significantly lesser quality than BAT 1. Here were my impressions on the matter: -Graphics and sound in the sequels look grainy and sound grainy and low res/low fidelity compared to the graphics and sound in BAT 1 - this includes the menu graphics and choose character selection graphics and portraits in addition to the polygon character models -Characters animated more smoothly in BAT 1, whereas in 2 and 3 the characters moved in a more jerky fashion for all moves Does anyone else agree? Or am I merely looking at BAT 1 with rose colored glasses and all of the BATs are about even in terms of their issues? Regardless, does anyone agree that Toshinden completely jumped the shark and strayed pretty far from its theme of mostly oriental bladed weapon fighting by the time they were introducing multiple characters with guns (3 had a few), characters with chainsaws as weapons (3), or Toshinden 4 where they threw out almost all the past characters and replaced them with a roster of lolitas?
3 and 4 were ass but I LOVED 1 and 2. Currently though the only Toshindens I have are URA for Saturn and Battle Arena Toshinden for the Gameboy.
The music was very good in 1 and 3. Can't really remember it in 2 or 4. The music was definitely a great point of the series.
Well I have to say First one was better... Which I played on Sega Saturn as originally and PC port was worse than PS1 I believe. I think PS1 port is better. as my experience on Sega Saturn Good points A good number of charactors and backgrounds, plenty of gameplay options, and it looks great on the Saturn & has an enjoyable amount of cinemas. Bad points It would look better on Playstation. The funfactor of the game is pretty average, it does suffer from some limited combos and it seems like they use the same attacks over and over with almost every character, this prevents any one from standing out as "cool" or "the best". During many of the win poses pieces of a characters arm or leg will dissapear. Several of the characters also move so slow that you want to kill yourself on purpose just to get entertainment out of them! The controls can be kinda hard to get used to as you can do the same command and have an entirely different special attack come out each time. Lastly the ending is the same for EVERYONE. It completely defeats the purpose of playing 1p with more then one character. The vs. mode is where this game shines through, with plenty of ways to make it more enjoyable. However, I haven't played second or third in the series.
Does anyone else consider D-Xhird part of the extended Toshinden family? In addition to playing very similarly (not to mention looking far better, in my opinion), it even features Eiji Shinjo as a bonus character - if only Takara has promoted this as the proper third game instead of what they put out under that name... and I'll continue to imagine that Kids and Subaru never happened!
Are you kidding me? BAT2 probably has the most kickass soundtrack of all fighting games for PSX - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZYHSFax-2Y But would agree on the gameplay though - BAT1 & 2 are good-to-ok, but with 3 and 4, it was just downhill. BAT4 is almost unplayable :dejection:
