IS Nitro Capture display and Nintendo DS display have a set type, NSTC or Pal?

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  1. Danstrife7

    Danstrife7 Spirited Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I had question regarding a IS Nitro Capture unit? Does a unit have a TV display specialize, like is it made for NTSC TVs or Pal TVs or is there no display specialization? I believe/ I am pretty sure that TV displays in America for the Wii are in NTSC format while Wii in United Kingdom are in Pal format, or maybe it is another console that this applies too? But my question is does the IS Nitro Capture have this setup?

    This leads to one more question, are Nintendo DS games/consoles specialized/type formatted for countries for their displays? Does a Nintendo DS in America have the same display type as United Kingdom (NTSC vs Pal) or does that not exist?

    I apologize if this question has been asked already, but I did a search and didn't come up with anything. If anyone doesn't mind responding, I would really appreciate it.

    Thanks for listening.
     
  2. michal99

    michal99 Peppy Member

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    Nintendo DS does not have any TV norm as it use LCD displays same like computer laptop. Any console which have to be connected to TV set has one of them PAL/NTSC or both if we don't count HDMI in modern consoles, but still the games are moustly region lock so you can't play them on the other type of the console.
     
  3. Demo

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    NITRO (NDS Games) are not region locked. The Displays or "format" (or whatever) is the same.
    Since dev kits and capture devices use the same video outputs as Nintendo home consoles, I'm pretty sure that there are different versions for NTSC and PAL.

    edit: different versions of dev kits with video output of course, not retail units..my english is pretty bad today :nightmare:
     
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  4. Danstrife7

    Danstrife7 Spirited Member

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    Hello everyone,

    Ok, thanks for the responses michal99 and Demo. I have another question then, I have been looking into getting a IS Nitro Capture unit, I found one, but it is a foreign dev kit. It is not from the U.S. or Japan, it is in a region with PAL display format.

    Would this affect me being about to hook it up to a TV and/or playing U.S. DS games on it? Would the image/video look stretched or something? Would it work or what?

    Also to michal99, one more question if you don't mind, so the DS doesn't have a TV normal, that's what you are saying? In other words, there is no existence of NTSC/PAL display format for DS? So if that is the case if I got a European copy of Pokemon White and I have a U.S. copy of Pokemon White, these two copies wouldn't have different video outputs/screens, they would be identical?

    Sorry if you already answered that question, I would just like to be sure. Thank you so much for listening and responding, I really appreciate.
     
  5. Lum

    Lum Officer at Arms

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    NTSC and PAL originated as TV broadcast standards. Like most arcade games and PCs, the DS had no reason to follow them.
     
  6. Shou

    Shou Gutsy Member

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    I have an IS-NITRO and since it is converting RGB into s-video and composite, there is some kind of NTSC encoder in mine. I assume the same for the PAL unit.

    There is no RGB out AFAIK.
     
  7. Demo

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    Fairly modern televisions should be able to display NTSC and PAL inputs without any problems.
    I have a NTSC capture unit hooked up to a TV I bought in Germany, works great.

    European Pokémon games don't have any region lock (even if they had, they would still work in a IS-NITRO-CAPTURE, since the DS doesn't do any region checking unlike the DSi and 3DS.)
    The games look identical on all DS consoles or capture units, so no problem there.

    To make it short: An IS-NITRO-CAPTURE works with all DS games.
     
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    Danstrife7 Spirited Member

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    Hello everyone,

    Thank you very much for the responses, Lum, Shou and Demo. I really appreciate the information.

    Thanks for listening and responding.
     
  9. YamiHoshi.nl

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    PAL has better screen quality, but NTSC has a better Frame Rate.
    If your TV supports both of them, it's up to you whichever you use.
     
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    To add to what others have said: For example, as far as I know, the PS1 and PS2 can output both NTSC and PAL, it's technically up to the game to decide which one to use. I don't know if this applies to Nintendo/Sony consoles though.

    Also, while PAL is technically fairly equal to NTSC, it's VERY mistreated by game developers converting their games to PAL regions. Effectively, most PAL games runs 17% slower than the NTSC version, and with a compressed screen with huge black borders above and below the picture. This applies to most games for most consoles up until the Xbox/PS2/GC generation. To be sure to get the best gaming experience on older consoles, PAL best be avoided :(
     
  11. Lum

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    Something like that. PS1 and PS2 are different from each other too. If I recall PS1 has games apply 50/60hz yet sets NTSC/PAL color in hardware, PS2 always sets NTSC/PAL color to match the 50/60hz mode.

    But only my PS2 is modchipped. Not my PS1. So I can't right now look into it.
     
  12. Danstrife7

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    Hello everyone,

    Thank you, so much for all the information. Thanks YamiHoshi.nl, kungmidas and Lum. I really appreciate the help. All of you guys who responded, thank you. You rock!

    Thanks for listening.
     
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