Is OPL PSX compatible?

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  1. Joe Musashi

    Joe Musashi Spirited Member

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    I could actually use my PSX for once. Is it possible?
     
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    If you have a means to start homebrew on that machine, then it should support the hardware fine, as it would appear to the software as a standard PS2.

    Have you tried Free McBoot on it? The PSX is a Japanese region machine so may work with an install made on a 00 region PS2 console, which is the install that you have on your card... so try inserting it and seeing what happens.

    If not then Swap Magic should work.
     
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    I haven't tried anything so far, incase I got a flat out no.

    I shall do a multi-version install card on one of my PS2's and see how it goes. I'll need to get FTP setup as taking out the HDD is a pain too.
     
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    You defintiely wouldn't want to open up the machine every time to install a game. It's bad enough having to remove the HDD from an expansion bay type PS2, but this would be a much greater pain...
     
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    HDLDUMP does transfer HDL games through Ethernet...

    Seriously guys .... :shrug:
     
  6. Elijah

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    We already know that...

     
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    Unfortunately it's HDL DUMP or nothing, because the games are installed as partitions, not files. :shrug:

    So FTP is obviously out of question.

    EDIT:

    ALSO, we're not sure if the PSX HDD is following 100% the standard format used on the normal PS2s so you even risk breaking the filesystem on the hard drive by connecting it to the PC and running tools such as Winhiip ... :shrug:

    Edit2: I'm working out a method of launching things from the PS2 "Dashboard" (OSD actually) which might interest you guys with these fancy systems ... PM for details ...
     
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    By "FTP" he meant the HDL Dump component of OPL. I tried to help him set it up a while back.
     
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    In regards to FTP I meant the HDL Server that is built into OPL along with the LordBoGaMi GUI 2.1. As far as my PSX goes, I'm not going to use the original HDD, as like you said I may break the filesystem.

    I just watched your video Leonard. Looks pretty cool, but surely restricted by the 40GB size limit of the official HDD? Which leads me onto this:

    One other thing I've been wondering for a long time is if the PSX HDD has the same firmware as the PS2 HDD's? After all HDD-compatible PS2 games are supported by PSX. I'm thinking I could put a 250GB HDD inside an SCPH-10210 casing to create an official 250GB PS2 HDD. It would also be better for your new launching method having more storage space and all.
     
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    Considering that people have tried to revive dead PSX units with broken hard drives and never succeeded I am afraid the PSX hard drives (while having misleading standard stickers) do actually have modified firmware ... :shrug:
     
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    Are we not talking about the same thing here?
     
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    We are indeed. I will transfer games using the HDL Dump built into OPL. The LordBoGaMi GUI is compatible to my knowledge. Up until now I've been connecting my PS2 HDD to my PC and transferring directly, and then putting the HDD back into the PS2. This isn't practical with the PSX so HDL Dump will have to be used in this case.
     
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    It's just that HDL DUMP is nothing close to FTP. It's a custom protocol with specific server and client for an very specific task ... :thumbsup:

    It's the same thing that is happening with the XBOX360 dashboard hacks... Because of the JTAG hack, now any console with hacked motherboard will be instantly labeled as "JTAG" ... :shrug:
     
  15. richi902

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    i also wonderd this....:shrug:, would be pretty cool if they use indeed a similar firmware. but all psx hdd's are too big for the ps2 in terms of memory, the smallest is 250gb right? and the biggest 700gb? and maximum size that the ps2 can use is 137gb?....well official......

    i saw something about the psx on the nobunaga no yabou channel(PSBBN), and also on the offical psx site, that the game is not working on the psx as far as i understood and thats a hdd only game title, so i wonder if other hdd titles dont work with it, for expampel ffxi or ffx?
    or dose that only mean that you just cant use/download the trial with it? :p

    oh and by the way cool work on that game launcher @l_oliveira:thumbsup:
     
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    FFXI definitely works. I always thought Nobunaga's Ambition did work on a PSX. They released a PS3 HDD patch for both of those titles also.
     
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    i just looked again, it said something like that early psx-consoles cant use it without a firmware upate apparently, http://kamurai.itspy.com/nobunaga/PS2hard.htm.

    but on the gamecity channel it says something about the downloadable trial and the psx....my japanese isnt that great.

    so in the end they both (ffxi and nobunaga) seem to work.
     
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    What that do is allow the PS3 to create "containers" which mimic the layout of a PS2 Hard Drive, including the MBR and OSD loader KELFs. It does not work exactly the same as it does in a real PS2 because it's boot process is simplified (launches target game straight) and while the MBR file they use is the same for all regions (region free KELF file) the game launcher (dnasload.elf) is not ... :shrug:

    Still you can install and play the Japanese FFXI on any asian PS3 by using the disc to start/launch the game ... :thumbsup: As long the disc region matches you can use that method to launch and DNAS will pass the check...

    What kept it from working on the asian PS2s was the fact that you could not format the harddrive properly as there is (or was ?:lol:) no HDD utility disc for such regions.
     
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    i noticed that with the container too :eek:
    while i was trying to only install the pol-viewer on my us-ps3, it directly wanted to use around 4gb or something.
     
  20. l_oliveira

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    What I didn't mention is that it's impossible to hack the PS2 HDD image because the PS3 checks the "sensible" files (the two bootloader kelfs) and the DNAS encrypted game elf file for integrity before running them... :lol:

    So no, you can't use that method to enable HDLOADER with the PS3.. :shrug:
     
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