Is there a specific type of adhesive pad for holding a PS1 modchip in place?

Discussion in 'Modding and Hacking - Consoles and Electronics' started by Flappyraccoon, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. Flappyraccoon

    Flappyraccoon Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    16
    Just as the title asks, is there a specific material or brand that is non conductive and safe or are most fine? I used to just cover the chip in electrical tape on both sides and let it sit free to wiggle. But wanting to move towards more aesthetically pleasing installs on my consoles. Thanks!
     
  2. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    I usually use a small square of double sided tape for things like this. That being said, I don't know of a single common glue that's conductive so I guess you could just use whatever. Just don't mix it with sparkly metal powder to make it "look cool" :p
     
  3. Flappyraccoon

    Flappyraccoon Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    16
    Thanks I will give this double sided adhesive I have laying around a try then. :D
     
  4. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

    Joined:
    May 5, 2013
    Messages:
    2,634
    Likes Received:
    292
    I put heatshrink around my chips and just use a blob of black hot glue
     
  5. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    Note to self: Never buy from Leham.
     
    supersega likes this.
  6. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    Please stop with the hate against hot glue just because Drakon was retarded with this stuff. It doesn't mean that it doesn't have its uses if done correctly.
    As long as it's not overdone it's a great way to fasten stuff as it's relatively easy to remove if not smeared all over components and the pins of ICs.
     
  7. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    Note to self: Never buy from Bearking either.

    While I own a hot glue gun, I rarely find any use for it outside of structural things and water-/weatherproofing. Imho it has no place whatsoever in delicate electronics. I know some people think differently, but then again some people actually take irons meant for soldering friggin' pipes to their Game Boys.
     
    Taijigamer2 likes this.
  8. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    Well I tried getting through to you, but it doesn't seem like you are willing to listen. A shame that one guy's misuse of something can label everyone else using it.
     
  9. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    You were talking about that NES RGB mod gone south, right? I've seen more than enough examples of hot snot misuse by other people too. Unfortunately it's really easy to go overboard with the stuff, and/or get it in places it doesn't belong. Enough so to make me recommend not using it in the first place. It may work out if you're careful, I'll give you that (but you might also be able to fix a GB with a plumber's soldering iron if you're (skilled and desperate enough and very, very) careful). But why bother if some sticky tape or a cable tie would work just as well?

    Let's just agree to disagree, OK? I'm good as long as I know whose "contaminated" stuff to avoid, and I won't keep you from dripping as much glue in your things as you like.
     
  10. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    Wow you're incredible. You have no reference of my work. What gives you the right to assume I'm "dripping as much glue in my things as I want"?

    I was trying to make a point about not generalizing, but you obviously didn't get it. Good day sir.
     
  11. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/consolized-mvs-in-aes.63435/ has this, for example
    [​IMG]
    Looks neat enough for what it is, but apart from the ends of the black wiring - which could've done with less imho, also why didn't the RGB lines get any? - I don't really see a need for glue here.
    Well, I sure hope you're using exactly as much as you want. Otherwise that'd be another point for the "don't use hot snot because getting the dosage correct is hard" camp.
     
  12. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    The Bios wires got hot glue because 38 wires packed this tight will cause a lot more strain on the solder pads, than the RGB lines. That's why it wasn't needed there :)
     
  13. Flappyraccoon

    Flappyraccoon Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    16
    Please don't turn my thread into a side topic of personal attacks. As much as I appreciate your answer to my original question it was kind of unflattering to see you seeking out another users personal project just to defame them.

    Also, that is a very tidy install.
     
  14. rso

    rso Gone. See y'all elsewhere, maybe.

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    447
    Let me add one final thing then. A PS1 chip, much like BK's BIOS, doesn't really need wires that thick (explicitly not meant as an attack, it may just have been what he had on hand, what do I know?). Try to choose a decent gauge. If you have to leave a chip floating around (e.g. because you need to keep the wires short), maybe go with sth a bit thicker to give it some stability; otherwise go for thin to reduce strain on whatever you use to hold things down.
    Keep in mind that the wiring for power may need to be a bit thicker than the rest - not for PS1 chips, but it might be a good idea for full blown boards like e.g. some kinds of ODE.
     
  15. Flappyraccoon

    Flappyraccoon Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    16
    Thanks for the input yea I am partial to threaded wires these days as they can withstand more wiggling and seem to bond better with the solder joints. For consistency with the PSIO switchboard installed I'm gonna go with 32 AWG. :)
     
  16. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    rso: Yes I had to move the bios to another location. Had it been the same size and pin compatible I would of course have just soldered it on the board. You also have to keep in mind that this was built with some thought put into it. In the future it may need to be taken apart, and had I not secured this bundle of wires, there would be a chance that one or more of the solder pads would be ripped off when I removed the two boards.
    I could have used way too long wires instead to lessen the strain, but I think that's ugly and it's not good practice for obvious reasons.
    Should I ever need to remove the wires (I can't honestly ever see myself not using a unibios, but let's just pretend) I can still remove the wires and glue with little effort using my hot air station.

    But please, if you have further questions send me a PM. Let's not mess this thread up any further.
     
  17. citrus3000psi

    citrus3000psi Housekeeping, you want towel?

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    418
    I use 3M permanent mounting tape like this. If you need to remove the chip, just twist. Don't pull.

    [​IMG]
     
    Flappyraccoon likes this.
  18. LeHaM

    LeHaM Site Soldier

    Joined:
    May 5, 2013
    Messages:
    2,634
    Likes Received:
    292
    note to you, hot glue isn't waterproof

    Also show us your work then....
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2017
  19. kel

    kel Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2012
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    4
    Really nice work by the way Bearking, very neat and tidy. I wouldn't complain if I opened up my console and saw that. On another note you have extremely small feet, looks like they could easily fit into those DB15 sockets :eek:
     
  20. Bearking

    Bearking Konsolkongen

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2010
    Messages:
    856
    Likes Received:
    100
    :O Size 42. Not sure what that translates to in your country.
     
sonicdude10
Draft saved Draft deleted
Insert every image as a...
  1.  0%

Share This Page