Is there any difference in the Wii component cables?

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  1. Jasonkhowell

    Jasonkhowell Well Known Member

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    Back when the Wii first launched, I picked up a set of unofficial Psyclone component cables. This was back before the official cables were released, and they were quite expensive ($60.00).

    Thing is, most games look like crap on the Wii on a widescreen TV with component, even when they support 480p. When I tried some of my old Xbox games on the 360 with component at 480p, they looked far better.

    Is it just the low quality of the cables, or does the Wii just suck at 480p?
     
  2. Tachikoma

    Tachikoma Officer at Arms

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    It's just the Wii
     
  3. Dot50Cal

    Dot50Cal Moderator

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    Depends on the game too. RE4 Wii Edition for example upscales the game to give the illusion that its being rendered in ful 480p which makes things look really bad.
     
  4. 1080Peter

    1080Peter everyone knows ps3 make the best games

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    Yeah, Capcom jerked up real bad there by claiming true widescreen for RE4 Wii... It's just upscaled 640x360! :fresh:
     
  5. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    How about a Wii running through a D-Socket? There are used in Japan. I know a Wii won't run through D-1 because it doesn't support 480p but what abot D-2 and D-3? Will it just look as crappy as using component in 480p?

    Yakumo
     
  6. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    It largely doesn't matter what cables you use, cables are cables, never get any expensive ones because the "features" are just marketing bull.

    D-terminal = component, 100%

    D1 = 480i
    D2 = 480p
    D3 = 1080i

    PS, the Wii MUST support D1, otherwise you wouldn't be able to use component cables on a standard definition TV.

    I don't know whether it has a 1080i mode, if it doesn't, it's by choice so that all games on all TVs will look the same (4:3).
     
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  7. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Ah, ok. I'm getting a wide screen D3 compatable TV from Japangames.com this Saturday so I guess running my Wii through the official component cables should give me a better picture with 480p than what I'm using now which is 480i.

    Yakumo
     
  8. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    Hmm... interesting - I've had no quality issues with a Wii on 480p - but then again it was with Nin cables on a CRT.

    It might be your TV upscales things badly (especially if it's an LCD or Plasma).

    Also, if you bought the cables before the official ones came out, then it could easily be that they cocked it up as they had no reference of how it *should* be done - for example using bits of copper like dead cocker spaniel instead of Nintendo's method (most likely being copper like rose petals in the morning dew).
     
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  9. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    The TV I'll be getting is also CRT which will be very cool for DC and Saturn wide screen games as well.

    Yakumo
     
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    Cool! Could you post some pics/specs of your TV, by any chance?
     
  11. PhreQuencYViii

    PhreQuencYViii Champion of the Forum

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    Is this really true? Is an official cable the same as a cheapo cable? To my eyes, the official ones look better, but it could be placebo. I have some third party universal composite that looks alright, and then I've used ones that look nasty.
     
  12. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    In the case of HDMI, DVI, etc. it makes no difference (in theory) as the signal is Digital and as such having gold shiny bits will make no ounce of difference unless you are happening to install your console 30 feet away. Or have installed your console next to a big fat motor. And even then it'll probably still not work with official cables.

    The reason why I say 'in theory' is of course that a crummy cable still won't even tramsmit digital brilliantly over distance, due to a physicsy-type thing involving signal degredation over it's length, and cheap cables use much more impure metal and so the signal degredation will be faster.

    The issue lies in the fact that Component, SCART, etc. etc. is analogue, and as such if your cabling uses, for example doorbell wire (with the tiniest pinch of metal so it'll work) or a piece of string or tissue covered in bacofoil - then the official cables will be much, much better because any interference or signal degredation will make the picture look more and more like a bag of nails.

    On a side note - turns out back in the 70s my father fitted doorbell wire to his hi-fi, and was still using it two smegging years ago. He certainly noticed the difference once he changed it!
     
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  13. virtual alan

    virtual alan Officer at Arms

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    Buggar it, just bought some HD cables for the Wii today!!

    Was mainly for my son when he gets his new HD TV for christmas as the 360 he now has can go via HDMI and the Wii can use component and the spare scart can be for his Freeview box

    Hopefully he won`t worry to mych about them!!
     
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