Iwata gives the 3DS 4 months to "make it"?

So the 3Ds is getting the virtualboy axe?

 

The 3DS isn't DOOMed

The Wii U is

 

I think he meant, "Give it 4 months before deciding whether or not us dropping the price was worthwhile or not."

 

I think this is the quote that means the most:


In short, we have concluded that, for Nintendo 3DS to expand enough to become the successor of Nintendo DS, we have to take a drastic approach.

This implies that the 3DS' future as the Big N's next portable is in doubt. I think that if Vita wasn't launching at the end of the year, current sales would be no big deal; but obviously N is scared.

Before, they could sort of afford to be the different console, they were done fighting it our with the likes of Sega and NEC for space in the living room. The corporate mindset had changed because they made a majority of their money on handheld sales. They let Sony and Microsoft battle it out, and it's like they were invited to the party, but never thought it was important enough to come.

IF 3DS is dominated by Vita and IF Wii U has lackluster sales, Nintendo will find themselves in a very Dreamcast-like position, I'm afraid.

 

I think it looks to similar to the DS line.

Parent's look at it ''He's already got one of them'' buys something different

 

Yeah, I agree that the Vita and its price point probably scared Nintendo a bit. In my opinion, it shouldn't have, because Mario and Mario Kart would have made the 3DS fly off the shelves this holiday season anyways. But at this price point I predict there's going to be a shortage of 3DS's for the holiday season (which will only be exacerbated by Nintendo being worried about whether or not it will sell).

 

The best possible move sony could make is giving the Vita a surprise $50 cut. I sincerely hope this happens, because at the end of the day, the consumers win.

-adrianc

 

The 3DS is a nice machine, however it's not that great a technical leap from the Nintendo DS, the 3D is nice but only a few games is it really worth while. The fact that money for old rope, Zelda Ocrania of time is the best selling game is probably not a great advert for on the pulse gaming, I would hazard a guess that 90% of the people that have it do have the game on the N64 or GC... (I did an unscientific survey and out of the 20 people I asked, 19 of them did own the game on the N64 or GC...), a Mario game would sell well, I just hope it is better then snooze a thon New Super Mario Bros, really Nintendo you can't make a decent 2D mario game since Super Mario World?

Nintendo have too much money in the system, so rather then be a DS replacement it might just end up being a DSi + until Nintendo release their next console. Nintendo still have trillions of yen in the bank and could bail out a number of small african countries and still have money in the bank, so any doom and gloom predicitions are going to be wide of the mark.

I like the 3DS, just a shame that there is a lack of really great software, with most of it being updates of existing games, my most played game being Pokemon White which is a humble DS game, although the Pokemon 3D pokedex is a nice touch.

 

It doesn't matter how much they have in the bank. Sega did not go bankrupt or out of business. But they had to leave the market. Nintendo is a publicly traded company who are FIRST answerable to their shareholders. The fact that N came out and publicly said that they will not be bringing any of their franchises to other systems shows that SHAREHOLDERS are already starting to ask that question.

It doesn't matter how much money is in the bank, but how much a company continues to make.

 

Wait and see how well the new 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Star Fox, and Resident Evil games do. It's too soon to tell how things will play out.

 

That's bullshit.
There is still plenty of reasons to get a 3DS. The mercs, despite capcom's dick move is a GREAT game. It's a lot of fun and the music sound is fucking insane for a handheld. You HAVE to play it with headphones. Despite all the douchebaggery they did a fantastic job on the game itself and especially the audio. (been playing my brother's he got at launch)

People are just bitching about "LOL 250$" or "LOLPORTS" , while past nintendo handhelds have always been cheap and have either had ports/remakes or games from established franchises. None of them, not a single one has housed the power the size of the 3DS.
The fact that it can produce graphics on par with Resident Evil 4 is already insane enough. The 3D effect is incredibly well done and immersive. It has great games out for it already and imagine what developers will be able to do in a few years.

I remember paying 250$ for the PSP when it came out to just play 1 game, Metal Gear Ac!d and that was well worth the price of admission. The 3 PSP's i've owned since have brought me nothing but joy.

I know that my 520$ was well worth it on my PS3. I got over 1000 hours of play time out of the one game I bought it for.

I'm also sure that once I have the money that I will be buying my own 3DS and there are a lot of games I plan on purchasing with it.

(Even MGS3, which by my previous posts I have voiced moderate disappointment with it's transformation from the initial videos to the original graphics) Along with Oot,Samurai Warriors,SSFIV,The Mercs,Resident Evil Revelations,Blazblue,Rayman,Rayman Rabbids in Time,Ridge Racer 3D,etc. Along with the 20+ Free games you get from nintendo for being an early adopter.

And i'm sure if you ask anyone who paid full price for the Saturn,Neo Geo AES,PS3,Etc it's been worth it. Whether in the long run, or immediately after purchase.

Because there sure has been a lot more good games out for the 3DS in the first 4 months than there was for the PSP (OR DS)in it's first 4 months.

You fucking people have the worst fucking expectations. What the hell were you expecting at launch? You already got a game that is considered one of the best of all time within MONTHS of it's release. And as we all remember the DS had a TERRIBLE launch in comparison to the 3DS and the only decent game out for it was SM64.

 

Well for launch i was expecting Nintendo to have a small selection of decent games to play. I had no interest in yet another Nintendogs, i hate Streetfighter & the the Layton game is too far beyond my Japanese reading ability so i was left with nothing. The only stuff i did play was the built in games. The Japanese launch lineup for the DS was way better than what they released for 3DS on launch i had Mario 64DS, Daigasso Band bros, I would die for you, Mr driller, Zoo keeper, Tendo doctor.

This was the first time ever for a new Nintendo handheld where i couldn't find a single game i wanted as nothing appealed to me from the lineup.

The solution for Nintendo is simple, release some decent games & people will buy your handheld. This will be rectified in time, it's not the OMG teh doomzored shit that some have been spouting on here but it's totally Nintendos fault for not having anything decent out. They should have held on instead of releasing it this early as it clearly wasn't ready.

 

Nintendo is starting to sell hardware at a loss?

Shit. They must be in more trouble than they are admitting. You don't change a business principle just because they consumer base is smaller than you would like.

 

What about people who paid full price for a Virtual Boy? or Game.com? N-Gage? Lynx? How about 3DO? Was a 3DO worth $699 at the time (that's $1,050 in 2011 dollars)? Just because you like something doesn't mean is good for the general public. And I don't think you can convince anyone that $250 is worth it just to play Resident Evil spin-offs.

And what game on the 3DS is considered one of the best of all time? Do you mean Zelda, which had already been released multiple times in the past? Why not just save the money and buy a Famulator if you want portable retro?

And for VOSSE, here's an explanation of finances for Nintendo:

"The world's largest video game maker revealed Thursday that it continues to bleed cash, posting a net loss of 25.5 billion yen ($324 million) for the three-month period ended June and prompting the company to slash the price of its 3DS handheld to $169.99 from $249.99 beginning August 12. And the outlook for the Kyoto, Japan-based firm's fiscal year doesn't fare much better. It's guiding net profit of 20 billion yen, down 82 percent from its previous outlook, on sales of 900 billion yen -- blaming the skid on a shortage of hit titles for the Wii and 3DS."

 

Problem for handheld gaming are Smartphones.
They are cool, cheap and capable of more than just games. And they are good gaming machines as well - look at Gameloft: Their lineup of Android games is better than the 3DS lineup. And their games just cost 3.- Euro and not 35.- Euro like a Nintendo game.

 

Holy shit... I didn't know about the free games. That's awesome. In my opinion, they should've released OoT 3D at launch. Up until that point there weren't really any games worth owning the system for. That alone is worth it to me, and Star Fox 64 3D is going to be awesome too.

I very much disagree. Every game I've played by Gameloft has been utter shit. Not worth $1 to me.

 

They just need to release a new Hotel Dusk for the system. That way I'll certainly buy it, which usually brings luck to a console.


GameLoft makes z-grade games. The art direction just pisses me off.

 

I don't understand the allure of spending $250 to play games you already played.

 

Okay. The point of playing games you've already played is because you still enjoy them. That much should be obvious to anyone who has ever played through a game more than once. The point of paying more to play a game you've already played is because you still enjoy it and you get something extra that the original game did not have. In the case of Star Fox 64 3D, the graphics are better and it's in 3D, and I can carry it around with me. Also, the circle pad is arguably better than the N64's analog stick.

I should mention that at the same time I am gradually working my way towards playing Star Fox 64 on my PVM over RGB. Also, I have a Hori Mini Pad 64, which greatly increases the enjoyment you get out of playing almost any N64 game. To me, those 2 things (playing SF64 on my PVM with the Hori pad, and playing SF643D) are kind of similar. The idea is wanting to play the game (Star Fox 64) in a better way than I've played it before. As to which I will enjoy more, probably the PVM. But I want to try both.

Besides, there are good original games coming out and already out on the 3DS. It isn't all about the remakes.

 

Didn't you buy a N64 and Gamecube too?:lol:

I don't get the allure of paying $1000 to get some skinny easter european bitch dressed in cheap imitation leather to punch you it the balls, but apparently a lot of shitheads do.