Jasper V4 and V4.1 reliability?

I'm looking into getting another XBOX 360, however I've been told that RGH times are bad on Slims so I'm looking into a reliable 360 revision to use. According to the bit of research I have done, Jaspers seems to be the last revision before slims were released onto the market. I've previously heard about Elites getting RROD, and others have said their Elite are running good today. So I'm a bit unbalanced and unsure about proceeding into getting an Elite, it also doesn't help that I quite like the look of the Elite.


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What's everyone's experience or opinions on the Jasper boards? Are Jaspers MFG year 2010 v4.1 and better?

 

Slims boot times as far as I'm aware are fine, but if you want a Jasper get an earlier one from 2009 or so, the last revision has the old cooling system and that's not good of course.

 

You weren't told slim boot times are bad. You were told they CAN be bad. So can phat with rgh2, rjtag improves that.

 

Ignore the "Elite" branding. It means nothing. Focus on the board that's inside the system.

Realistically, if you want to JTAG (or any similar mod) your best served with either a Falcon or a Jasper. Both are easy to work on and are very reliable hardware.

I wouldn't trust a Xenon or Zephyer, but the latter two fat consoles are workhorses.

There is a reason why you see shitloads of "JTAG ready" Xenon/Zephyer units on eBay, but you rarely see the same in Falcon/Jasper units.

As for the mod, avoid RGH. Pray to the gods you can find one with and old enough flash to do a real JTAG mod on. If not, settle for RJTAG.

 

My trusty jasper JTAG works great to this day and I don't have to wait for it to boot up .

 

But you also don't have the option ever to put a second NAND on the console and play online on one NAND and Unsigned code on the other.

OP- It is generally Slim Coronas that have slow boot times, Trinity with RGH1 generally provides instant-7 second boots, especially with the new Xecuter Slim Proto V2. If you want the possibility to have a Dual NAND console (highly recommended) then you will need to use either R-JTAG (Phat consoles only) RGH2 (Both types, slow boots) or Slim Proto (Slims Only) in combination with a Dual NAND device/ method (i.e. Xecuter Demon, Squirt Dual NAND- requires modification- Matrix Trident, NANDwich, or even the old XD card NAND.

 

Ooops, sorry about that.

That's good news then, it means I don't have to go out and buy another system. I currently own a Arcade bundle system which happens to be a Falcon board (I think). By reading the 12v - 14,2A rail, matching my MFG 2008-09-18 September and has HDMI.

I've only found two places locally that can perform the modification, closest to me can do the mod for $100 or so and sounds expensive but I don't have the skills or steady hand to work on the 360 sadly. So if I were to take my 360 to this shop, what mod would they most likely perform? JTAG or R-JTAG?

 

Unless the console has not been updated in 4 years (Summer 2009 update patched the original JTAG hack) then they will likely do the R-JTAG hack (The chip required for this costs around $40). Make sure you ask them though, because they may cheap out and RGH the console, which would cost them between $10-$20. $100 is quite a lot, you can have iMoses on Se7ensins do it for $60

http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/threads/xbox-360-services-reset-jtag-flash-and-key-recovery.397931/

 

I'm in Australia, so anything US price is close to double. All 'service' places are far away, and I don't like the idea of posting a my own console out to them as it's $40 both ways anyway. 360 weighs a ton.

Anyway, I contacted the service that's about 30 minutes away from me and I got a reply from him. He said he'll be doing the R-TAG mod. It's $20 more than a postal service from another store, sadly not much choice

 

my elite is still going strong and i got it used a few years back, i'll be getting it modded at some point as i don’t use it online really

 

I've only used my 360 online for 2 weeks, got bad rep for smashing into someone on PGR 4 :/ So this mod will make it have more use, it's been boxed for a while now.

In the future I'll try and get my hands on a black XDX

 

How long is "been boxed?" A few years?

If the dashboard is old enough you can do a straight up JTAG mod (preferred if at all possible). That doesn't require any special hardware and the solder points required are...massive.

If not, then yeah, you'll want to do like kingkat says and actually confirm that the shop is going to do the R-JTAG mod because the hardware is more expensive than the cheaper RGH mod. If you don't specify the shop will probably just do RGH because it's cheaper. I've actually seen plenty of dishonest traders advertise RGH mods as JTAG mods.

Once modded it's possible to install a hacked version of the XDK software onto a retail 360, just as could be done with the original Xbox. It's not exactly legal, but the end result is more or less a test kit that will run both retail and debug software.

 

RGLoader doesn't support DVD emulation or PIX through sidecars.

 

It has the NXE dash, it's surely not up-to-date though. I've included the image of my system information:



I contacted the service with my MFG and Dashboard versions and he replied saying R-TAG is the best option. How is it best to tell if I am actually getting the R-TAG mod done?

Not one to like "functions of a XDK" I'd have to actually own one to like it, but didn't know it was possible to do. Still learning my way around the 360 though, they seem so complicated compared to the XBOX.

 

16202 is the fourth latest dashboard, I wouldn't say it hasn't been updated in years, maybe a few months. R-JTAG is definitely the best option, after the mod is done, you can by the boot times. If they RGH the console then it is almost guaranteed to have a boot time of over 7 seconds, if it is an R-JTAG then it will have instant to 2 second boot times. The better way to tell would be to simply open the console, if it is RGH then there will be a small chip on top the video port labeled, "Xecuter Coolrunner."
The image is misleading as the chip is only about the size of 2 US quarters (2.5 x 1 inches) If it is an R-JTAG then the chip will most likely be located somewhere else with more wiring coming out of it. It is a slightly wider chip (2.5 x 2 inches)

 

Thanks Kingkat, for explaining this with images. I know what to look for now

 

Why all the worry about boot times?

My "original" Xbox with Tsop takes around 20 seconds to boot into XBMC and I think that's fast, if I put in a game disc it takes over twice as long at that, have people today gotten to the point where they can't wait less than half a minute for something to boot?

Or am I missing something here?

 

RGH boot times can be 15 minutes. So its hardly people nit picking

 

Wow that is bad, I was commenting on the boot times over 7 seconds and I have read complaints on other threads about over 30 seconds, but 15 minutes is "make a cup o tea laddy" territory, why so long?

 

its in the name, Reset Glitch Hack

Glitches being unpredictable and all that.