Just burned out...

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  1. Purge

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    Now I'm not a bad student, I guess you could say a lazy one though. I burned out sometime during my sophmore year of HS (3-4 years ago) but I wouldn't let myself drop out, but my grades just dragged. I've been trying to get my act together and last year I even went on and took on an overload of courses and I'm afraid that I'm not out of the burn out stages for some reason. To me school is beginning to seem like a chore, and it shouldn't be. If I bottom out like I did then I have no idea whats going to happen and I want to avoid that at all costs, I just can't get back in the swing of things like I used to. I know its not all academic related, alot of it is personal reasons and stress from a bunch of things but I don't want to end up working at mcdonalds living in a trailer park drinking my troubles away... Do you guys have any methods of getting around burnouts?
     
  2. Took the words right out of my mouth... I suppose if I had any helpful advice for you, I wouldn't be in this position myself.
     
  3. SilverBolt

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    Well to be honest i know what you talking about school was no fun for me the last 2 years but i kept at it for the same reasons you mention ending up in a trailer park and working at burger king.

    Just keep that in the back of your head it can be very motivating.
     
  4. Zilog Jones

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    I'm just really lazy when it comes to doing work that's actually related to my course. I go to my labs ok, it's just all my lectures... and tutorials... and everything else.

    And recently I've got Forum Fever, so I've just been sitting in the computer labs posting crap on forums ALL DAY... just like I'm doing now! AAAHAHAAHAAHHHHA :smt022

    I'm screwed. So screwed. I hope the curve will save my ass, but there's like 15 people left in my course, and some of them actually go to lectures!
     
  5. AntiPasta

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    Hey, join the club! Right from the Leiden Institute of Advanced Computer Science, here goes :smt043
     
  6. Zilog Jones

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    I never even TOUCHED a forum until I went to university! Damn this place and its really fast (and free!) internet! How dare they have GOOD facilities!
     
  7. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Advice from someone who took way too long to finish college, *ahem* myself:

    One thing I found was to only take one or two classes that required serious study at a time, and fill up the rest with easy ones, that way you don't get four or five heavy acedemics at once and are better able to concentrate on the classes that require attention.

    For example, one or two hard science or math classes, and the rest fuck around classes like underwater basket weaving or whatever.

    Don't give up, good luck.
     
  8. Chip

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    I work full-time and attend university each night. I currently have no social life :smt030 . But then, I just need to look at my friend who is nearly twice my age, and admits to being broke and in the gutter.

    He seems to be happy, though he is not at all well financially. I try to convince him to do something with his life but he feels it's too late.

    Anyway, even though you can't totally rely on it, an education will get you places. If nothing else, it may guide you away from something you don't want to do... Not interested in the courses you're currently attending? Try a different major... Find something that interests you and take it slow to begin with. Don't burden yourself with crap that bores you as it will only dissuade you from going any further!

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    Hawanja sums it up pretty well :-D . Concentrate on what's important so you can pull through with minimal pain. You'll be done in no time...
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  9. GaijinPunch

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    Best advice I can give:

    Go to your teachers office hours. Make sure your professor (or teachers assistant) can put a face to your name. It won't hurt, and you'll probably learn more on the way.
     
  10. einbebop44

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    I'm a total fuck-off as well, but I'm only in high school. I have no drive to do anything, just kinda drift about. I get Bs and As though, one of my teachers screwed me over with a B+ because I was always semi asleep in class, but whatever.

    The only thing I can say, is that if you really want to do it, you'll do it. You can always find a way to pull something out of your ass, even at the last minute, if you really, really, want to. I do it all the time, and give the illusion that I actually do something.

    While all the other kids are working away, I play Halo 2. I think I've done homework at home this year what, maybe 10 times, max. :smt042
     
  11. Zilog Jones

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    Yeah, I always used to be lazy as hell in school too. If my homework required too much work or something I hated doing (e.g. poetry - I never "got" poetry), I just wouldn't do it. And I was crap at studying, too - I didn't start any proper studying for my Leaving Cert. (the final exams in school here - like the SATs in the US?) until THREE WEEKS before them. And I still wasted loads of time and got distracted really easily, such as writing some crappy BASIC programs on my Commodore 64, and even throwing a tennis ball against my bedroom wall for half an hour.

    Also, you yanks have it good - in my course I don't get any choice in what modules I do for my degree. Some years and courses get "elective" modules, but even then it's only a few modules were you have a choice, and that's usually only in 4th year. So among other things I *have* to do Technological Maths for THREE YEARS!! :angry
     
  12. WolverineDK

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    well to put in another perspective i have experienced alot extreme things in my teen years (seriously no bullshitting here guys) precisely from when i was 11

    but when i think back (not long ago) how did i survive as a "normal" person ?

    well you just survive or else you will commit suicide (no joke again)

    so if you want to make it through school , highschool what ever

    you make it through and work like hell to do it

    in my case not long ago i was threatened out of one of the danish "adult educational centers" because i told the truth and said the truth about some religeous beleavers even the danish educational thing
    (undervisningsministeriet is the danish name for it)
    would like to take my case up but not even they could not garantee me no retribution from the people

    so it is a tough case and why i am not saying the people beleaf is because i am still afraid of them

    and the moderators have my full permission to correct my spelling in my post.
    (my english sucks bigtime sometimes)
     
  13. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Wolverine- Sorry, what exactly did you say that got you in trouble? And what are these "adult education centers?" You mean like prision?

    Yeah, I was a screw up in high school too. That's because high school doesn't mean jack shit. But what really sucks though is that after you graduate you find out about all kinds of cool opportunites you could have taken advantage of if you just knew about them (for instance, I could have gone to an art magnet school, if I only knew it was there.) For the most part high school administrators and teachers just care about moving kids along so they graduate (so they can continue to get thier tax funding.)

    That shit changes when you get into college though. You realise quick that you can't just blow through, occasionally doing the absolute minimum required and still expect to graduate.

    It took me five years to get a AA degree (which I just got this semester.) I didn't even start going for real until I was 22. Other guys my age already have BAs and are well on thier way to carrers, I'm just starting out. That shit matters when you're 28 and have no experience and half a degree. My only saving grace is that my chosen field (art) is less forgiving about education or experience and relies more on talent and hard work.

    Fuck the social life, you'll have plenty of time to get laid later. Don't be like me, work your ass off and get through it.
     
  14. WolverineDK

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    hawanja no :smt043 :smt042

    it is a place where you can get a 9 , 10 grade and some higher things exams

    when you have not been in the normal school

    and then you can get an exam when you have become an adult

    and hawanja the part of my life i am not talking about is a period in my life from i was 11 till i was 18+9 months so the educational part is the real issue.
     
  15. einbebop44

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    Ha, I got in an arguement with my dad yesterday about grades. He was obviously somewhat pissed off that (since I was half asleep in Chem clas) I got a B+.

    He was like "You're going to go to West Chester [community college, if you don't step up your efforts]" My response was to fuck off, and that he was an idiot for trying to tell me that. I'm not saying I'd get into fucking Harvard with B/A- type grades (i.e. solid), but there's no way in fuck I'd ever end up at a place like that.

    He's also the one who doesn't believe me when I say I could just skip college and be plenty succesful. He doesn't think its funny at all, since he got like 6 degrees (from Ivy League schools) and was in school for more than half his life.

    I hate school, I really do. The best part of my life is honestly riding the bus in the morning. It may sound pathetic, but it's strangely relaxing and eye opening. I was uber pissed this morning when my parents had to drive me to school 'cause I didn't wake up in time for the bus. :smt067

    On the I hate school tangent, I've honestly thought about quitting at times, because honestly, what difference does it make? I guess the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that it's politcally correct to go to school. And also, people look down on you if you drop out. 'Cause ya know, the people with 25 degrees are the only smart people in the world. ;-)
     
  16. Hawanja

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    Dude, don't quit school. You will regret it later. My big brother dropped out and got a job at Hewlett Packard, then got repeatedly passed over for raises and promotions because the other people were more qualified.

    Once you get to college (and move away to do so, so you won't have your parents lording over you) your educational experience will be a lot more fullfilling, first of all becasue you choose what classes you want to take (once you get past the general ed stuff.) The people there for the most part want to be there and don't fuck around. You don't have to worry about the usual high shcool bullshit. It's different when the average student is $30,000 + in debt and taking 18 units a semester. It makes you work hard.

    Plus (and I'm not making this up) you will get more chicks than ever in the rest of your life at college. Especially if you say, go to another state or something. Since everyone works thier asses off all week, then they have to party that much harder to releive the stress. You will spend lots of time between classes and studies with tons of hot chicks ductaping themselves to your penis. No joke, they should make posters and put them up at highshcools across the country as an incentive for kids to go on to higher education:

    "College: You will get laid."

    Anyway, stick it through. And besidies, your grades don't sound too bad. Shit, I never made it to chemistry myself.
     
  17. Zilog Jones

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    Jeez, when I finished school, I got like a C3 (55-60%) English, Physics and Business, a D1 (50-55%) in German, and a B2 (75-80%) in Technical Drawing. I got an A1 (90-100%) in Maths, but that was only ordinary level (I was doing honours in everything else), so tha's the equivalent of... another C3! And I still got 100 points over what I needed for my course (points are out of 600, made up of your 6 best subjects, but I was lazy and only did 6 subjects!) - thank god for the recession in the IT industry! I'm not doing the best course ever or anything (mainly cuz I didn't do honours Maths), and I'm not in the best univeristy in the country (though it's probably got the best electronic & computer college here), but it's still about a million times better than not going to college at all.

    I don't know how different it is in the US (it seems A LOT different from what I've seen in this thread so far), but here if you've got no previous experience, there's not a chance in hell you'll get any job in any profession without at least getting a cert. or diploma - and for anything more sophisticated than being a car mechanic - a degree.

    That's where it's also different here - I do 6 modules a semester, and I can't choose to do any more. Also, Ireland is one of the only countries left in Europe to give FREE* third-level education! So I'm only about €100 in debt. :smt023

    This can be very true. Except I'm a loser with no money and/or booze, I never go out, I live at home like a square, and there's ONE girl in my course. College is still six trillion times more fun than anything else you'll ever do, and it's a good way of delaying Real Life® for another few years...

    *Free as in I don't have to pay for my degree (unless I repeat anything), but I still have to pay about €800 a year for the "registration" fee, which goes to administration, the Students' Union, insurance and other junk. But the grants are costing the government millions and they want to stop it soon.
     
  18. madhatter256

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    Thats the best advice ever. I've been currently doing that. However, since I'm pursuing a degree in Computer Science. I'll be taking math classes and computer classes more than ever. RIght now, though, I'm just concentrating on my general courses, mainly writing courses, which I hate. By the end of next semester, I'll be done with my writing courses and then I'll have just my math courses to focus my time to, like Calculus 2, Calculus 3, Physic 1, Physics 2, Differential Equations, all of that fun stuff :smt030 . But knowing that I'm in a job hotspot as long as I network myself with other people I'll go places and not worry about how much it costs to get there :smt042 .

    So yeah. Just take one or two "hard" classes that you NEED to take, and take easy classes just for credit hours sake. I recommend taking 4 classes each semester, down here thats all you need to be a "full-time" student and other than school I'm also working trying to save up for a car. This past semester has been a great experience and I've learned from the stress it has brought me. It all comes down to time-management if you think about it, as well as control. If you can control your habits, like Forum Fever, casual sex, relationships, friends, and video games; you'll be out of college in no time. :smt043
     
  19. einbebop44

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    Haha, I won't ever quit, if only to prove all the mother fuckers in the world wrong. :smt042

    I'm sold on college. When can I start? :-D
     
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