Hey guys, I've recently picked up an awesome 19 inch broadcast monitor, sadly, with a catch. It's a JVC professional video monitor. It was made in July of 2006 and is in excellent condition. The model number for it is TM-H1950C, and runs composite and s-video better than any retail CRT, IMO. Sadly, the TV did not come with the RGB card that is a separate add on for the TV. Basically I got an awesome hi-res monitor for composite and s-video I found out that the model number for the RGB card is IF-C01COMG, JVC part obviously. What I'm looking for is this. Any information or resources on this monitor when it was new, as far as price, manuals and things along those lines go. Where I can find that IF-C01COMG card for the TV, or if anyone has one or can get one for me. Also, do you guys think that professional monitors run composite and s-video better than a standard retail CRT? Let me know Also, for those wondering.. I picked this up for very cheap compared to other 19 inch monitors out there.
Of course they run it better, they were made for professionals. They tend to be quite picky about quality lol. Most likely the RGB card won't use a SCART/JP-21 socket so you may need a SCART/JP-21 to BNC/RCA/D-Sub adater.
Ah ok. You would need a SCART to BNC adapter or make some BNC cables for your consoles. Makes me wonder if the RGB on these is better than commercial CRTs sold in Japan and Europe.
I suppose you've answered this too, above lol If the tube is better (and "professionally expensive"), anything should be.
PVMs are definitely higher quality than consumer TVs. I've never seen a European TV with a SCART input, so I can't compare them. But I have seen arcade monitors (which use RGB), and my current PVM (20M2MDU) definitely looks better than any arcade monitor I've encountered.
I've been running the 60fps version of Ridge Racer included in R4 over s-video, sadly as good as it'll get for now, but it looks to be around arcade quality, or at least how I see it. And I'm guessing the 20M2MDU has RGB correct?
A computer or industrial scale monitor will always be clearer than a normal CRT TV. However, 19 inches is too small for me. Where to find the part? I doubt you ever will find that card loose.
Depending on manufacturer, arcade cab CRTs could be of excellent quality. Some of them aged and some were never really sharp to begin with, but Toshiba tubes, for example, were known to be great. Broadcasting monitors have an equal or better picture, as they were more expensive when sold new. I would say my Sony PVM 27" is approximately equal to my Toshiba arcade tube in terms of RGB quality. Some TVs featured very high quality tubes in Europe, and generally the RGB looks great even for average price-range models. Some friends got their TVs for $10 from some senior dude and the RGB looked stellar. Here are some comparison pictures I've taken over the years to compare. Toshiba 29" in a Taito Egret 2: Sony PVM 2730QM: Sony 24" Trinitron consumer TV from ~2000: (a bit small, I don't have a bigger one) The consumer TV is not quite as sharp as the PVM and arcade screen, but it's crazy sharp compared to blurry S-Video, slushy composite or RF-"is something broken?"-adaptor.
Yeah, it has RGB, component, S-video and composite. There's a lot of variation between PVM models, too. I have a 13" PVM that's much older and not as good as the 20M2MDU I mentioned earlier - which I think they started selling in 1999 or so, and the one I have was manufactured in 2001. The other 13" model was manufactured in 1984. One day I want to get a 29"-ish PVM or BVM that will do 15khz, 31khz, and (ideally) 24khz. Right now I don't even have anywhere to put such a monitor, but it's a long term goal.
For some reason this thread is making me feel bad about my purchase haha. I personally feel that S-Video on my JVC PVM is pretty good as it sits. I did buy it for 70-80 percent off from what a 20 inch Sony PVM goes for nowadays. Hopefully I can find a contact with that RGB adapter.. But poke fun at me, but I still feel S-Video looks good on a PVM.
Not to double post on my own thread, but just an update. Through someone on eBay, I was able to source and purchase the IF-C01COMG RGB add on card for my JVC TM-H1950CG. Got a pretty decent deal on it too, considering it was a $288 add on when it was new. Can't wait to get it installed and see how my PS1 games look in the best quality possible. Also, looking for a Genesis 2 RGB cable, and a SCART to BNC adapter now. Proved @Greg2600 wrong
On ebay if you search "PVM Scart Adapter" you can find some adapters for European SCART RGB cable to BNC connections. Similarly you can find all the RGB cables you might want. And ofcourse S-Video looks good on a professional monitor. Even on a consumer monitor S-Video will be a very nice improvement over Composite video which is pretty cruddy usually. However the quality of the monitor still comes into play and a shitty consumer TV with composite video still looks worse than the same composite signal on a high quality monitor. In general if you are getting S-Video then while RGB will be an improvement, atleast for now you aren't stuck with Composite. I had a situation where the Sony PVM I bought years ago only has two input types. Composite Video and RGB. It's fine for most things but I actually was annoyed that it did not support S-Video. The N64 and GameCube don't support RGB unless you modify the N64 console, or have a PAL GameCube. So S-Video is the best you get. DreamCast is another one I'd like S-Video for because not all games apparently support RGB. Recently I bought a second PVM which has S-Video input in addition to Composite, RGB, and also Component Video.
I did actually. I looked around the connections I have here locally and no one has any of the cables, so eBay looks like the option for me. The IF-C01COMG RGB add on card I got for my specific TV adds RGB as well as Component YPbPr inputs, so I'll have Composite, S-Video, RGB, and Component YPbPr. Also, about the Dreamcast, I saw on a website that they've made VGA to BNC converter boxes. Didn't look at how much they were, but it looked like a very cool option for Dreamcast VGA box users to be able to use the VGA box on a PVM type monitor. And that's really cool. What size is it?
I've seen the VGA box option for DreamCast before too. However like RGB, not all games support VGA either. Only Composite and S-Video are supported by all games. Makes me think just using S-Video for it would be best even if it doesn't look as just as RGB or VGA. Plus my new PVM I don't believe it handles anything other than 15khz video. The PVM I got is a 20" which is basically the same size as my other one. I'd like a larger PVM like 27 to 32 inch but both the size and weight make them impractical for me as well as cost and availability. The 20" monitors already weigh a lot. But I think it's a good size for personal use or even two players.
S-Video is not the best you can get. Unseen cloned the GameCube Component cable over a year ago. You can use GCVideo lite to get 31KHz RGB SCART, VGA, and YPbPr, all of which support 480p and 576p when in 31KHz mode. I don't recommend this as Unseen made an HDMI version (GCVideo DVI) which will give you the best picture possible out of the GameCube. The HDMI mod costs $66 for everything needed to use it. Much cheaper than the official cable and much better quality than RGB. As for the Dreamcast and N64, OzOnE is releasing a Universal HDMI mod which supports all DC games and gives a much better picture than RGB SCART and VGA.
I'm talking about the best you get on a 15khz monitor. That excludes any VGA, 480P, HDMI, etc. N64 requires a mod for RGB. GameCube requires a PAL system for RGB. If you have a multi-sync monitor that does 15khz and 31khz, then the 480P/VGA options might come into play. But I don't have one.
