I got a jpop concert LD this morning to play on my Laseractive but I can't get side 2 to play... I get a strange "need control pack" error message (with no control pack inserted) and a "error loading" message with the sega pack... This is a basic concert LD, nothing fancy, no AC3 sound, no LD-G content, no MegaLD/LDRom... Any ideas?
Karaoke module? this is not a karaoke LD and why would side 2 need it? it's the 2nd half of the concert... this is so strange... the karaoke module is only for sound mixing, right? I could play a karaoke LD without with, in theory...
I can't say I've ever seen that one before and I've sold a lot of LD players, regular or LaserActive. The Karaoke Pak is the just mic and sound settings, I can't imagine it has antyhing to do with actually playing the LD. You said you inserted a PAC-S10 so that can't be the problem. Maybe the player was just a bit moody that day. Give it another shot, but rub it on the left side while it boots up and say nice things to it.
I've tried it many times, with and without a Pack inserted (both S-1 and S-10) and I always get the same Need Control Pack error... The LD is brand new and the laseractive was also brand new (a few months ago...)... I have about 40 LDs, they all play fine but this one really won't play Side 2... It is one of the few LD from Avex Trax, maybe they were... I don't know... different... ^_-
Perhaps it has one of the more advanced audio encodings like AC3 or DTS? Later LD's had them on the analog track, I think, and all but the most purdy players required additional hardware to decode them.
Even if an LD disc had AC3 on it, you could still get it to play on a standard player without any additional hardware. You'd clearly not get the AC3 tracks, but you'd have stereo instead. I've been using laserdisc for years and only recently sold my Pioneer off. I've never seen that error before and doing a search in Google really didn't help me either. The only reference I can find is to the Sega pack or the Karaoke pack, which doesn't make much sense. You can still listen / view Karaoke discs without the pack plugged in. Normally the sleeve notes would inform you if anything was required, i.e. regarding the previous comment, the sleeve would have "AC3" written on it somewhere. So I'd have thought that any other requirements would have been noticed. Faulty disc?
I have no idea what is going on with this LD. There is no AC3 or DTS and even if that was the case, why only side 2? Beside, I have AC3 LDs and they play fine on my laseractive What's the dotted line on side 2?
Have you got access to a second machine (at a friends house) to test the disc? Atleast you'd know where the fault lay. As the other 40+ discs all seem to be playing perfectly fine I'd have pointed at the disc before the machine, but it could be in fact a glitch caused by this one specific disc. Interesting that there is a gap between the main body of data on the disc and the section closest to the dotted line on the second side. I wonder what that track is, perhaps that's the issue? :katamari:
I don't have access to another LD player so I can't test it anywhere else. No luck with the masking tape hehe, still "Need Control Pack" ^_- I don't know what that gap is and why side 2 looks different from side 1... but this is part of the problem...
Oh my... I didn't think you'd actually try the tape... Should you be desperate, I have a Japanese (actually, HK, but identical save for 220V) Sony LD player, I wouldn't mind testing the disc if you cover shipping. However, I think you're better off finding someone on your own continent...
Yeah I'll find a way to test it here, LD are heavy. Oh and the tape wasnt a bad idea, it works for some protected cds so it was worth a try ^_-
Do you have the title and catalogue number of the LD? It sounds like the disc has something in it's sound track that is causing the Laseractive to think the disc is a LD data disc. The same way that having a text file with MZ at the start could be executed as code on a windows based system (loosely...).
It might be worth posting a query to the alt.video.laserdisc newsgroup - it's been a while since I regularily haunted there, but they used to have lots of very experienced LD users.
