Loading Saturn backups with cartridge, normally possible?

I just tried out of curiosity and loaded a backup with my saturn cartridge. I load the game from Action Replay, is this normal?

 

no! u sure your saturn's not chipped?

 

Nope, it's original V-Saturn Model 2. I'll record some video. Very interesting, although my cart is an unlicensed cart.

Here is the video I mentioned earlier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdcexiI7xe8

 

It is possible or so they say. Some of the Chinese "Action Replay" carts have a chip to enable the boot of CDR discs like the magic card does. I've never actually used one though so I'm not 100% sure if it's true or not since even with a magic card you still need to do a disc swap. All it does is stop the CD Drive.

Yakumo

 

One of my backups play without the card, I show that in the video.. Which is very odd. But I do need my cart in to boot the others.

 

Hmm, very interesting that Dead or Alive booted on a standard Saturn. Did you make the back-up? Is it actually truly possible to make a Saturn game self boot on CD-R now? The Action replay has the same menu system as my Japanese Karat Pro Action Replay (licensed Japanese version) but I wonder if that will also boot a CD-R? I'll have to try it. I know it will boot PAL games on my Japanese Saturn so.......

 

It's not my back up no, I got it from a ISO site. It's some how self boot. Very odd, try it with your Saturn and see if it works. I can boot any back up with that cart inserted, but without it, only Dead or Alive works and boots by it's self.
I can PM you the ISO and see if it works the same with you.

 

Give VBT's Gaganoid a try

 

might have finally surfaced the way to selfboot cd-r on a saturn? keep that disc as a treasure and try to make a backup of it burn it again and see if it selfboots

 

Will do tomorrow karsten, buying a cakebox of CD-Rs tomorrow . This maybe it! Self booting Saturn games :O
Wish I could try it on the Model 2 PAL saturn, signal chip has dripped solder on it.

 

Very interesting. Stupid question, but have you looked inside the system?

It doesn't sound out the realm of possibility, though. The way the Saturn decides to load or not load a disc seems rather bizarre at times. For example, my Japanese Saturn will load several of my US region games right away. Granted, I swapped a US model drive into the Japanese Saturn, but supposedly the region settings are kept in the bios, not the drive. Moreover, it plays every Japanese Saturn game I've ever tried.

EDIT: I just tried all of my US region games, and Nights is the only one that will load. I thought I had another one that would load as well, but if I do I must have left it at home. I posted a thread about this eons ago.

 

No I haven't opened the system. Still though why would it boot only Dead or Alive backup but none of the other back ups I have?

Regardless it being from other regions, I don't think a back up would ever boot no matter which system, unless modified.

 

I hate to say it but that V-Saturn appears to be modded - The 'Dead or Alive' disc matches the region of the machine (hence, no need to use the cart) And the cart just allows other region games to play, that's all.

I suggest having a look inside the machine - the previous owner may well have had it chipped.

 

Link me too, my Saturn definitely isn't modded.

 

Looks like some of you are getting confused.

Dead or Alive: Boots without the cart.. even with it not in the slot.

Virtua Cop and Fighters Megamix both backups DON'T boot, unless I boot them with the cart.

I'll try burning a few more NTSC-J games and see if they boot. I'll try opening the saturn, but I don't think the tools I have can reach all the way to the screw, besides if the system was modified, how come the other backups don't boot at all?

Also, could someone else try inserting a NTSC-J game in their V-Saturn?

 

I just found that old thread I'd posted. If I understand Madroms correctly, Saturn games can be region coded for one region, all regions, or any number of them in between. Nights is region coded for US, Japan, and Asian NTSC.

So that really has nothing to do with what you're talking about.

 

I found these sticker(s) on one of the screws on the V-Saturn.. this isn't a seal of anything is it?

 

I think what others are suggesting is that your system has been modded to play Japanese region backups. Although you haven't said what region the other backups are. But if they're a different region, then that explains why they don't work without the cart. The modchip removes the security code, but not the region. The cart removes the region, but not the security code. Do you follow my reasoning?

There's really no other explanation as to why it would load a backup by itself, unless it was some kind of factory malfunction, or a prototype, or a test unit or something.

Also, the image you posted doesn't work.

 

Sorry, Dead or Alive backup is NTSC-J, Fighters Megamix backup I believe is PAL, and Virtua Cop is also PAL. Both PAL backups boot with the cart but not without it.

Dead or Alive also boots with the cart.

 

Quoted for emphasis as your question has been answered. V-Saturn is Japanese, the same region as Dead or Alive NTSC-J, which is why it boots without the cart, this is also why the PAL games wont boot without the cart because they are not NTSC-J and don't match the region of the console.