i was once last year in the talks with freedo from the 3do emu project he claimed to have betas/source of games and wanted to provide me some in exchange for the 2.7 or 3.0 sdk (cant remember which one) he got the sdk from me but the cds never reached me maybe i should contact him again he was very nice and knowledgable on the subject right now i have the 1.2 2.7 and 3.0 (and that 2x) plus the konami arcade game battle tryst and the car demo is hovering over to me when assembler finds time iam a little suspicious about people that claim to have that much beta/sources on a unreleased system especially from so many different gamedevelopers but who knows maybe he was in a key position in the old days of the m2 development
Well, I wasn't about to out them, but my source are the Freedo developers themselves (www.freedo.org). That is their software list in my earlier post. The fact that they authored the only working 3DO emulator to date earns them more credibility in my book that some anonymous guy from Konami of America. If the software list is accurate, I just hope some of the titles find their way to bittorrent or eMule someday... Anyway, if what he says about the FZ-35 units is true, it just irks me that some collectors assured the bunch of us that the units were not real M2s, that they couldn't play games, and then proceeded to pounce on them on Ebay. My gut feeling is that what Freedo says about the units is true, and that they are real, complete M2 units capable of playing games (if we had any.) ;-)
I dont doubt in my mind that there isnt at least _1_ working M2 with some beta game, most likley belonging to someone very close to the orginal project. Anyway I always found this thread quite interesting: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=70451&mode=linear
havent searched my battle tryst game for a bios chip but i would guess its not sockeled so you have to hard remove it by heat which i myself wouldnt do =)
after all the story about fz35 playing arcade games is mostly a rumor no one has yet provided any prove that its working on the subject of freedo i have little split opinion, a while ago i was talking with the freedo dev and was in trade about m2 game/software i fullfilled my part but he never came over dont know what went wrong but i dont like it when things happen that way i mean he was a nice guy and his 3do work was very amazing but something was too fishy for me
by the way do you know what happened to the site and the admin of freedo? i was just going to buy his 3do with the hard drive and waiting for pictures, he dissapeared. its so pity. they also was going to release a dc emulator for 3do, but nothing happened...:crying: :crying:
i think there is quite a difference asite from that a fz35 has a cd/dvd drive and a hdd which the arcade doesnt have could you provide me pictures of the inside of a fz35 ? i cant seem to find mine but i think there is much difference btw. those 2 but i have no problem with beeing stated wrong on the linux thing i remember only a dos commandline program which could read out the 3do file system but i cant remember where i have that laying around and it didnt really work for me http://zappenduster.7sky.de/3do-m2/photo%20test/PICT0014_resize_2.jpg
i think he screwed too many people... something with the forum software cracked up sql database problem or so its down since some weeks i think
OOPS sorry about that, i didnt think of that. well i wish you are right but nobody shares any knowledge...:-(
i think the arcade cd of battle tryst has a very similar filesystem to the 3do one but iam not sure on that but you can read various filenames if you check out the sectors directly (i think isobuster i used for that) for example the model files or textures of the fighters can be found very easily
did you read them out via the linux driver or via the dos tool (since i tried only the later one that might be the problem why i didnt get nothing of it) some interesting reading: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.3do/msg/bd996e29b2952945?output=gplain http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.video.3do/msg/b31078f89635d34a?output=gplain especially the iamaduck thing made me laugh
I've been working on a basic command line version for NT just for fun (I've been using 3do commander, but I could never get it to fully work right). Don't know when (or if) I'll ever have time to finish it though. Out of curiosity, how did you determine the version of opera that the M2 uses?
did you use the offsets provided on the 3do newsgroup ? cause if yes i could check out the differences in the three m2 discs i have maybe they updated it (the filesystem) after the arcade was made
As far as I know the most complete filesystem description is included in the linux operaFS driver (the one you posted earlier). There was also bit of info on a deleted page posted in the newsgroups (internet archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20011218014730/lillith.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/~kashima/games/3do_dir-e.html)
could you when you are on the way of creating such a software also create a gui useable tool for reading the 3do / m2 discs under windows ?
I'm curious if you could get it to the point of being able to read whats on the FZ-35's hard drive. The last I heard, people tried connecting it to a PC but it had some type of mystery data on it that no body could read (I'm assuming it was operafs, maybe programs copied from the original cd's?) Try using ASPI.
yes no problem i would try it just send it over zappenduster@gmx.li moneys a little tight right now or i would buy one of those 110/220v stepdown trafos to check that arcade disc in the fz21s1 player i have iam wondering how much different it is to the fz35 cause in theory it has more common with the arcade then the fz35 media shoeboxes
