Miyamoto confess the Wii is a GC, wont commit sepuku

Holy japanese tacos! Miyamoto just said the Wii is, as we all know, a GC in a new case

The hardware is basically a GC. We’ve upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are.

Not only that but he also sujests that the Wii may follow the path of the GBA and DS (which both get most of their games from the old Snes and N64) and re-release old GC titles upgraded for the Wiimote:

With that in mind, I thought we could remake GC titles for the Wii and modify them to work with the Wii remote so that they’re more fun to play.

First the ass-kicking $250 MSRP, and now rehashed games....

 

someone tell him there's an appreciable difference between hash and rehash

 

Well, that's not totally the case. I don't believe the XBOX even came close to reaching it's potential. PCs just need little upgrades to vastly improve their performance. I think I like Nintendo's reasoning: Let's push the technology we have right now with a few upgrades, revolutionize the controls, and let developers build on their Gamecube knowledge instead of starting from scratch so that they can spend more of their efforts on unique games. We shouldn't complain about that approach. Sony's machine will probably never tap some of it's potential. It always seems the games that push the system the most come out right at the end and people are reluctant to abandon their old consoles. ah, what do I know.

 

The issue with the wii, graphically at least, is that there isn';t much to push really. By changing the clock-speed alone many moden technics just aren't there. I doubt that we ll see technical jewls such as Star Fox Adventures and Resident Evil 4 any time soon on the Wii. For me at least, SFA is the toppest gamecube game technically - but that was Rareware, not average joe developers.

 

Uh, old news from august that somehow got passed as "new", confirmed by (ugh) Joystiq. Quite a lot has happened since then

 

everybody knew that... sony and MS are selling new machines with really new hardware more or less at a loss, nintendo is selling old hardware with a new controller ripping customers of more or less 100-120 $ per unit..... typical sony (nintendo?) way

 

No doubt, but as I already said the point is miyamoto did a confession, while in this industry most people tend to always deny the problem, even when almost impossible to do so.

 

But It's never been denyed. And it really has not been a problem. Even the first mention of the Wii included the comment that Nintendo would deliver a new solution based on the Gamecube.

 

Dude, one thing is (hypotetically speaking) a Dreamcast2 based on the Naomi2 board or using a SH7 processor instead of the SH4 (and thus, being from the same family is binary compatible) which is quite a upgrade.

But using the same craptastic G4 with no VE from the GC with just a slightly OC is just lame.

Let's not even talk about the VE, they should use a G5.

Hell, since the GPU is also obsolete they could make a GC-on-a-chip and save some space and costs for jebus sake...

 

The Wii isn't a ripoff. If you figure you take 60$ out of the price for the controller, and some out for Wii sports, that's under 200$ right there, then ass in the other misc costs not to mention that they did clock it faster, build it smaller, etc. It's no ripoff, it's just horrifyingly underpowered compared to 360 or PS3. But just remember in the past that systems with pretty big flaws were still capable of amazing games.

 

Has anyone seen the Far Cry Wii screens at IGN?

It may be the programmers porting it from Xbox to Wii being incompetent or may be in early development, but it looks like maybe a high end N64 or low end Gamecube game. No joking.

 

Dude every single console in the last years has included at least one controller! And if they sell it for $60 that means its not harder to build than an X360 controller, while that last one comes with a lot of stuff.

But nintendo didnt sent an overcloked Nes against the Genesis, in fact this is the first time nintendo launchs the lowest powered console of the generation. I'm not sure but I think this is the first time I see any company launching an almost-obsolete console to the market.

Mother Fucking Teresa! honestly WTF is that? the DS version?

I mean, the only thing that looks "decent" is that white fence, but the rest looks from something from before Counter Strike came out...

 

The first one hash(ish) is what you smoke, and choke on. And the other must be the remnants of the hash afterwards ;-)

(silly joke, I know). maybe this one is better, hash is what you eat, with potatoes , and all. And the next you eat what you couldn´t eat the first day aka. (re)hash Yeah I know I am silly right now, but well to me the WII is well not interesting enough for me. To play with a remote controll.

 

hehe, hash jokes

Shadowplayer, the SNES wasn't exactly "top" when it came out. component-wise it was lower than the competition in some areas. Also, the GameBoy and GameBoy color, and eventually the advance and DS have also been of limited power. The GC->Wii step is easily comparable to the GB->GBC and GBA->DS steps, but the bad bit is that coders dont even try , judging from Far Cry.

 

oh i wonder if this is going to be more cell shading like we didn't get enough cell shaded games.

 

Well, yeah, it might be lame, but as has been said before, at no point Nintendo treated that as it was a problem. There was no confession, no denying, none of that. They said that from the begining. That's my point, honestly.

Also, I love how people always post screenshots of the lazy first generation attempts instead of the more polished first party games. But, hey, it's true: the less expensive Wii is weaker than the other more expensive consoles.

 

Yeah mine too, except for one little detail: they are trying to sell me a GC for more than twice it the normal price.

$250, shit, I could get an X360 with the same package (console+controller) for barely $50 more, and it is a nextgen system.

Honestly, unless I´m all like "fuck I love this crap! gotta get one ASAP!" I'm waiting for a price drop....

 

For some reason, I keep thinking that as far as third party support goes, the Wii is going to be the Gamecube part 2.


But damn the first party stuff looks good! :nod:

 

plays good more like it Not much of a looker the Wii has been so far - Yoda

 

Nintendo might be using the same philosophy with Wii as they have been with the DS.

The DS dominates the handheld market even though the PSP has superior hardware.

That FarCry screenshot has to be an early beta or something, no way would anyone buy a game that looks that ugly!