MK3 Action Replay SNES

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  1. Pikmin

    Pikmin Resolute Member

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    Hi there, i bought an Mk3 cart recently. So far i only have one japanese snes game - seiken densetsu 3. i was quite pleased when i saw i was able to play it on my pal snes.

    now i am interested in getting a few us ntsc titles for snes, once i save up some money. before i do, i wanted to ask whether the following are compatible with the mk3 adapter

    Super Mario RPG
    Chrono Trigger
    Final Fantasy II & III

    thank you
     
  2. MrSporty

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    Chrono Trigger and the FF's you should be ok with as they use regular CIC's which can be bypassed/disabled.

    Super Mario RPG uses a custom chip in the cart called an SA1 which incorporates the CIC functionality and as such cannot be easily bypassed.

    One theoretical way could be:

    Isolate the CIC lines from the cart edge within the SMRPG cart.
    Remove the NTSC CIC from a sacrificial game.
    Configure it in LOCK mode.
    Wire it directly into the cart.

    This way the SMRPG cart believes its actually plugged into an NTSC machine and should work.

    EDIT!

    Or what you could do is try googling (doh) and discover that the SA1 can have its CIC functionality changed between PAL and NTSC

    http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3507.0
     
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  3. Pikmin

    Pikmin Resolute Member

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    when i googled it last, one guy said SMRPG is compatible with the MK3 but i thought i'd ask here just to confirm.

    thank you MrSporty
     
  4. MrSporty

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    No probs , hope the link helped .. i was having a no-brainer moment after i typed all that and then found that link i posted :p

    I think that one guy probably means that the PAL version of SMRPG will work on a PAL snes thru the AR and same for the NTSC cart/unit.

    What you want to do is an import conversion which is where you might need to do that pin mod.

    Either way , hope you get it working ok :)
     
  5. Pikmin

    Pikmin Resolute Member

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    Okay, i've bought Chrono Trigger and it works!!!
    Unfortunately when i insert Super Mario RPG the MK3 says it couldn't detect the cart so no luck there :/

    Just thought i'd let you know :)
     
  6. Flyinghigh

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    Super Mario RPG wont work with MK3 because of the SA1 Chip.
     
  7. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    That's not necessarily true. What do you say it won't work? If it's just because it has a chip at all, that's not true as the MK3 is one of very few adapters that passes through all cartridge pins. Games like Doom (SuperFX) are playable with the AR MK3. It's possible SM RPG won't work, or atleast won't work with codes applied. But unless you've tried it yourself I don't think you should say it doesn't work.
     
  8. Pikmin

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    Instead of opening a new thread i was hoping someone could help me in finding an MK3 Manual scan. Had a look and couldn't find the Snes one, only Atari
    Thanks in advance
     
  9. Flyinghigh

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    i tried my self, it was not working for me ;)
     
  10. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Well that's better. You didn't mention that you had tried it in your original post. Though apparently there are two different versions of SMRPG out there. So it's still possible you had the version that doesn't like being messed with, but that's still atleast one confirmation that atleast some SMRPGs don't work via the MK3.
     
  11. ShadowZero

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    Sorry to bump, but Google got me here since I was looking for a manual scan as well (have a German manual :/ ). And preferably the original cheat code book (got an AR2 code book with my MK3...)
     
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