Modern 2D Console

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by opethfan, May 3, 2007.

  1. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    I don't understand. There isn't going to be microcode at all for the instruction set.
     
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    sorry, my bad.. I thought it was a prerequisite of sorts for older design philosophies?
     
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    Subtitle is, "Barc0de films from the corner"

    I beat your Afterburner Climax score, btw, but I have no idea how to put it on the leaderboards. :flamethrower:
     
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    Last time i checked I couldn't see my overall ranking at all. No idea how to upload scores either.I just played score attack once for the trophy but will play again when I get the time.
     
  5. WolverineDK

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    GP and the Greek Adonis should either get a room, or make a thread , cause normally I am "Mr Off topic" But actually you two should stop yapping about such stuff here. And stay on topic.
     
  6. Barc0de

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    We don't need a room, we go at it publicly.
     
  7. WolverineDK

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    Good for you.
     
  8. GaijinPunch

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    We're also not derailing the thread to new (yet predictable every time) levels in some manic tirade. I'm just pointing out that I kicked this out of Barc0de. I don't think anyone here has a problem w/ that.
     
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    Sorry for totally necro bumping this thread (mods if you have a problem, then lock the thread). But it seems to me, that since 2 years ago a LOAD has happened in different directions. The Open Pandora is one thing that has happened. And a big choice has been made in some consoles, some of them being open source being closed. But in reality, the only thing that really "killed" the thread was negativity from a single person. And yeah I have just looked through the old thread here. But Calpis, how is your little 2D console doing ? GP and Barc0de you two crack me up with laughter :) And Shadowlayer, you little piss-ant :p are you still totally negative ? ;-) or have you grown like me ? Cause the reason why I am again reviving the thread. Was because a person from the same forum as Swaaye came from has asked about, if it was possible to make a 16 or 32 bit pc in an FPGA. So I could not stop thinking back on this thread with all its macho , and testosterone fueled anger. And laugh a little at the same time :)
     
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    Yeah, and it's been a complete farce.
     
  12. WolverineDK

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    Price wise , yes. Not homebrew wise. Cause where the GP32 stopped. the other open source handhelds has been continuing their march.

    http://www.gp32x.com/
     
  13. Calpis

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    WDK, you're right a lot has changed! I moved from dedicated 2D hardware (FPGA) to designing a generic API, kind of like a virtual machine, not just for games but as a computing platform too. For me at least it's the way to go, even embedded processors can soft-render great looking games today and it's so much more flexible than any fixed HW. Now all you need for hardware is one of many SoC platforms on the market with HDMI out and then a couple of USB controllers and you've got a sweet console :) What someone needs to do is develop a lightweight game oriented OS w/ a Steam-like distribution system and we'd be in business (NOT ANDROID).

    I know someone is working on a cool FPGA-based 3D console though...
     
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    What's wrong with adapting Android to meet those needs?
     
  15. Calpis

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    Android makes it easy for people to put out low-effort crappy games. When I think of a modern 2D console I think Vanillaware, not Angry Birds (actually I think it's safe to assume that most Android games are worse artistically than Angry Birds). Basically more gift-wrapped libraries = less quality.
     
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  16. WolverineDK

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    Calpis, do you have any idea how the OS should be ? cause right now even DOS could be a possibility again. Unless we are talking in Linux terms instead ? Since both operating systems has quite a few programs and or GUI's that make stuff happen . I remember quite well a few menu programs for dos. That could run the games. In DOS. And in Linux there are tons of different window managers, GUI's what you that could do its bidding. Since from the getgo of this thread long ago, I only saw the sky as the limit. If not beyond that. Personally I still like dos to this day, but Linux is cool too. But there I had to have some help from an even more geeky guy. Than myself. Cause even though I am using Linux on daily basis. Then it sucks, that some times I need to get into the nitty gritty of things. If I really want to use Linux. Which I can't (yet). Since I do prefer the "easy/simple" way of what dos can/could do. Meaning I started quite late in learning how to use Linux. And its command line is still a "foreign language" to me.
     
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  17. Calpis

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    I think ideally the OS should be custom, but if you're going to build it on top of something else it wouldn't make sense to use DOS.. it's designed around the 16-bit 8086 and it's single-tasking, plus you'd still have to write your own networking stack, drivers etc. Android/Linux would be the way since it has everything already and SoC target it already, and we'd target the SoC. All that'd be necessary is to cut out the unnecessary stuff (like the VM lol).
     
  18. Teancum

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    That can be solved with curating the store or with some sort of licensing schemes. Basically you don't have to make it harder to make games for to get better games. But then again using linux as a basis would give any one a head start on something like this.
     
  19. wat-wat

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    Android has quite a few emulators for almost any system, from C64, Amstrad and Gameboy to Genesis, SNES, N64, Playstation and so on. Performances are good on even modest and entry level devicex, so it's fair to say Android is both 2D and 3D "modern" console, and also arcade multi-game board, as well as handheld that it is. Have you guys seen this: (Link removed)

    EDIT: Don't you get it? No links to "your" emulator! If it was free like emulators should be then fine but it's not free so don't try and push it here
     
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    I think the Wii could be considered a modern 2D console. Sure it has tons of 3D games but I think the best games are mainly in 2D. Here are a few examples:

    Kirby's Epic Yarn
    New Super Mario Bros. Wii
    Donkey Kong Country Returns
    Wario Land: Shake It!
    Super Smash Bros. Brawl
    Muramasa: The Demon Blade
    Lost in Shadow
    Klonoa
    A Boy and his Blob
    Kirby's Return to Dreamland
    Ivy the Kiwi
    Tatsunoku vs. Capcom
    Batman: The Brave and the Bold

    Honestly, the list goes on, and those are all Wii exclusives. I would definitely consider the Wii a modern 2D console.
     
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