MUST READ THIS :(

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  1. Jufghd

    Jufghd Member

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    Why my xbox can read games but when it comes in loading it will stuck or sometimes "damage or dirty disc" but i already clean the lens and i use vacuum cleaner to blow some dust. I can play other games normally. my xbox is modded. i can play pirate and original games.:grief::grief::grief::grief::grief::grief:
     
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    Banjo <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    I don't understand - is it a particular game that's not loading or games burned on to DVD-R?

    Also I'm not sure using a vacuum cleaner is the best method to clean!
     
  4. bennydiamond

    bennydiamond Gutsy Member

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    DVD-R media put alot more strain on the laser than pressed original Xbox Games. It is possible that a slightly scratched disc will be unreadable by a worn out laser. If you played "pirated" games often then that's the result of a worn out laser at the end of it's life.

    Replace the laser. It's a small amount of money comparing to all the games you did not pay.
     
  5. pool7

    pool7 Site Supporter 2014

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    To OP: Please next time use a proper title for your thread; just because you say people must read something doesn't mean they must do it. Also, you're wasting people's time, as they will open the thread and take the time to read only to realize they can't help, or simply just don't care.
    Also, this may not fully apply if due to language barrier, but you should take a bit more time to properly word your question (for instance, the Why in the first sentence shouldn't be there, and adding some punctuation may help).

    Sorry for the off-topic, but I had to say this...
     
  6. Jufghd

    Jufghd Member

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    original and burned games.
     
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    Jufghd Member

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    where do you think i can buy laser?
     
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    hl718 Site Soldier

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    Xbox drive laser is dying.

    As others have said, playing pirated discs on cheap media will cause premature failure. In short, either load everything to the hard drive and play off that or buy yourself another DVD drive.

    The one you have is on its last legs.
     
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    so i need to buy one? :( i hope anyone here have it and give it to me for free. lol
     
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    I think we shouldn't answer this based upon the topic and post #2.
     
  11. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Exactly.

    OH NO COME ON! Using a vacuum on a DVD-ROM is just stupid, plain stupid in fact. Not only can it pull on the mech or ribbon cables, but they are static.

    Who knows what else is damaged now.
     
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    MaxWar <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    5 hp shop vac in reverse mode through open cd door. DUST FLECKS PREPARE TO MEET YOUR DOOM!!!!!
     
  13. arnoldlayne

    arnoldlayne Resolute Member

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    I think the original poster is encountering the obvious problem that xbox's had - where they don't play copied discs, or do... but very, very, slowly. My xbox was a hassle from day 1. If it's modded, I would just hook up a cable to the router and ftp across, that's all I do - and there's no strain on the laser (at all) and should play everything you throw at it.

    I don't buy the 'copied games destroy lasers' argument, it's been done to death here but even a casual browser will see that just about every console can survive copied discs just fine, some having run for year (and years) with no problems. The only thing we know for sure is that some drives play discs better than others. (case in point, xbox - but also the Gamecube... some people have 0 problems, some never get any games to load b4 adjusting the pots)

    Just ftp across and ditch the burnt media.
     
  14. bennydiamond

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    It's true that drive quality is a big concern in these situation but it's a scientific fact that burned media are harder to read for an optical drive. The principle of work of optical media is to read bumps and holes on the surface and detect how much time it took for the light beam to reflect and get back to the laser unit.

    In the case of pressed discs, the bumps and holes are mechanically created, meaning that you'll get a near perfect result in the definition of what is a bump and what is a hole. You'll get a distinctive difference in height and sharp edges between each cell or bit.

    Burned media are chemically created. During the burning, the laser will destroy the chemical content of a cell to create a hole. This process leaves a result far less sharp than pressed, this is even more botched when burning at higher speeds, leaving the cell still partially filled and smoothed edges between cells. When read, sometimes an aging laser(the process of aging is determined by the lowering intensity and sharpness of the beam) will have trouble determining if the cell it's currently reading is a hole or a bump depending on where physically the reading of this cell is made(it's a disc moving at high speed, it's impossible that every cell is read exactly at the center of it). There is error detection in media reading so if a cell is misinterpreted by a bad reading, a second reading will be made. That means that by the time the system has detected an error, multiple cell following the wrong one will have been read for nothing and will need to be read again. This behavior will happen really often!

    Then there is also media quality, the chemical component is not of the same quality in different medias nor is the dye quality. Sometimes, cheap media will result with burned cell containing impurities that can't be burnt by a laser. This will amplify the phenomenon described above. Also, if the dye is of poor quality or the cells are not completely filled before burning, the burning laser could dig too deep in the cell and then when reading, the laser could simply not be reflected at the right height and the expected max time for the light beam to return to the laser will be broken : bad reading.

    If you're still skeptical, take an old drive that *sometime* gives disc read errors and play a clean and really lightly scratched pressed disc, you'll probably notice that you don't get DRE and it'll probably load a little bit faster.
     
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    hehe...vacuum.

    Just run your backups from HDD.
     
  16. Corron

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    True best thing is to softmod -> upgrade your HDD -> run the Games of the HDD

    + No more spinning disks noice
    + Faster load time :)
     
  17. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    If the DVD drive is a Samsung SD605B you can replace the whole laser sled with one from a Samsung SD616T. I did to mine and the results are awesome. Reads all the media I have now and even seems to be faster than the stock laser assembly. I had a dead laser in my SD605B and a fried driver board in a SD616T and I swapped the bad laser for the good one. The process is a complete bolt on affair. No modification needed.
     
  18. Tatsujin

    Tatsujin Officer at Arms

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    NO, I MUSTN'T READ THIS! :)
     
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