My first Supergun and it's so small

Discussion in 'Arcade and Supergun' started by Yakumo, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    It's a very good idea and ended up working very well.
     
  2. Yakumo

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    Actually, the Pandora's Box is only there as a starter to my arcade gaming collection. I will be buying real arcade boards but needed something cheap and value for money to test my set up. That's why I bought the Pandora. Next to buy will be a few nice shooters from the 90s and maybe an original Sunset Riders :)

    these sticks are ultra common in Japan so you don't need to feel bad :) Actually, the original sick was dumped. This has an all new Sanwa stick installed.
     
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    Sorry to say but the pictures in your first post made me cringe from a safety perspective... the image you've titled "the baby supergun", that's not a supergun at all, that's a just a bare power supply - you've got mains voltage there just sitting exposed on the floor, which is not very safe, particularly if you don't understand what you're doing with it (those big caps retain a hell of a kick after they're powered off...).

    I wouldn't personally be calling this a supergun yet (which to me, is a contained unit that you can just plug an arcade board into and go, with a power switch, etc. - almost console like) - this is more of a test cable setup (i.e. just a JAMMA cable hooked to a joystick, and a power supply, dumped to a SCART cable). This isn't having a go at you - it's at the seller who's calling it a supergun!

    To improve it, I would suggest that you wire the AC input to a IEC style socket, with a built in fuse and power switch - this will give you some protection if you have a fault, and the ability to switch on and off without having to pull the cable. I'd suggest you put a multimeter over the 5V line and see what you're outputting - make sure you're not dumping too much into the board, those Pandora's (as can a lot of arcade boards) can be sensitive at too much over 5V, and you don't know what that power supply is putting out. It doesn't look adjustable; if it's too high it might be worth replacing it with a (relatively inexpensive) proper arcade power supply that is properly adjustable on the 5V rail.

    With regards to buttons 5 and 6, from memory on the pandoras they're hooked up pins 26 and 27 (for P1) and d and e for P2 - a lot of JAMMA harnesses won't have them hooked up, or may only have button 5 hooked up etc. You may also find that you've just put the JAMMA harness on slightly offset on the edge connector on the gameboard - as pin 28 is ground, if you accidently put the connector over the top of those two at the end you'll short them out, which effectively means you're holding the button down (pressing an arcade button connects the button wire to a ground wire).

    For the speakers just follow pins 10 and L from your JAMMA harness to your DB connector at the joystick, disconnect them there, 10 is Speaker + and L is Speaker -, from there you can hook them up to a little amp or something (it's mono sound, so you might want to run it to a RCA jack and then use a RCA splitter before running into your amplifier?).

    Edit: Just realised this is an old post; whoops! Comments still relevant though!
     
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    I'm pretty sure Yakumo knows what the hell he's doing...
    and good job on the resurrection of this old thread... I'm sure they will love you around here lol
     
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    Don't worry I know what I'm doing when it comes to electronic safety.. Also did you read the rest of the first page? The unit was eventually cased and it looks rather sweet. I've pasted the thread below.

    The Supergun now has a nice if not a little generic home. It might be a bog standard Mini ITX case but it does the job.
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    The service and test switches are located under what should be the CD drive flap
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    It was a bit of a tight squeeze height wise but the supergun just managed to fit in with 3mm to spare. If I took off the spacer legs it would have a full centimeter but I needed to secure the supergun to the case plus couldn't have it resting on that bare metal.
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    The next step is to sort out the back panel. I hope to get around to doing that next weekend.
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    Yakumo - That is a real professional job there. I really like the look of it.
     
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    I like how you call the generic power supply a supergun. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks :)

    Well, it plays arcade games, allows you to connect a joystick, add credits and enter the test menus and has a video out so to me that is a SuperGun. What else does a Supergun do?
     
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    Slightly off topic I think but.... Question: Why are supergun setups so expensive? I regularly see people sell 'supergun' like setups for around $500 bucks. Are the cost of the electronics required really that expensive? Or is it more like 300% premium just for the labor? I would think that by now someone would have mass produced a simple/cheap solution to this already?
     
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    300% premium profit I'm my opinion. The electronics are not expensive at all.
     
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    It's not the most pretty of items but it does sound like it would be a good system. The auto video detection is nice plus everything is accessible from the front. How about sticks? Will it come with any? It is wired for 6 button gaming?
     
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    Got my MAK Supergun today. But need a good case for it. Im thinking about a PS One where i place the supergun and the psu inside. When i open the cd drive i can push buttons and so on. on the side with scart output and Jamma on the back. Controller and Sticks on the front.
    But not sure anything will fit in the small case. :D

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    Ooh, that is tinny.
     
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    will fit perfect in a psone, but i have to use psu extern..
     
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