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Basically ryangassxx, I'm not discounting the aliens-created-us theory, just saying I don't think it's extreme as you say. Like I doubt that we are a result of a cross breed between an alien grey and a chimpanzee.

I tend to think that if aliens problably did vist us in the past and did mess around with our genetics, it was problably in the area of brainsize, congintive abilites, or language skills. The rest of the human body seems to go pretty much along with the fossil record.

 

"The remains of Ardipithecus ramidus could provide insights into the creatures that lived shortly after the split from the line that gave rise to chimpanzees, 6 million to 8 million years ago."

It denotes a split from the line which spawned chimpanzees

"It is a very important finding because it does confirm hominids walked upright on two feet definitely 4.5 million years ago,â€￾ paleoanthropologist Sileshi Semaw, of the CRAFT Stone Age Institute at Indiana University in the United States, said in an interview."

Well it's something scientific, no? It supports that chimpanzees "shared" a common ancestor with us instead of them actually being our ancestor. That being something that I've been trying to say for a little while now. Something like the chimpanzees degenerated from the common ancestor while our ancestors went the other way and evolved from the common ancestor.

 

Oh yeah, We definetely did share a common ancestor with the chimpanzee.

But did we "de-evolve" from that ancestor?

Well, you have to think about what makes one organism superior to another. It's not physical abilites (size, strength, etc.) In our case I suppose it would be brain-size in relation to body size, "Intelligence."

So was this ancestor more intelligent than modern humans? I doubt it.

We're all DEVO. That's where they got thier name from, de-evolution. One of my favorite bands.

 

Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis (the neanderthals) comes from the homonids Homo Ergasta

Homo Erectus comes from Homo Habilis

Australopithecus afararensis or how the fuck you spell it = Lucy.

 

only editing some more stuff with a reply

 

only editing some more stuff with a reply :smt082

 

I didn't read all of this... but I'm cynical. I did read Von Dannikens Gods from Outer Space - which is actually quite interesting in itself - but I think its specific style of writing cleverly leaves out any counter-arguments to his theory and as such makes it all pretty easy to believe.

 

I was reading this thread and laughing about it for a while, but this post really got me mad.


Some of you guys have some strange beliefes, but that's ok. You are entitled to your own opinions and beliefes and I am not going to call you dumb, nuts, or crazy for it. However, I'm about sick and tired of reading all your insulting comments about God and the bible. I actually believe in God and the bible, and I did take offence to your sick comments.

 

Alien Workshop:

I actually believe in God and the bible too but i am not a christian

so please forgive me if i did something that insulted you.

 

I will not mention my views on God or religion, as they are 110% assuredly bound to piss off lots of people.

But anyway, I wonder what happenned to Neandrathals? They weren't stupid, as many people think, and they were stronger/bigger than humans were at the time (and are now). Gotta wonder what exactly happened. All of a sudden-->bam, gone.

The Ice Age was another cool one, from a geographic standpoint.

My favorite historical thing is Atlantis though. I wonder what ever happened to them.

 

this is my theory about Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis that they made love with Homo Sapiens Sapiens and became us
(although it is not really supported by the researchers)

my facts of that is what my father told me about a norwegian sailor who was so strong(well he ripped a shipthing loose when it got stuck and it was and is impossible to do that as a normal person) and had a body like a Neanderthal and two other persons my father had met (those two were in Denmark)

einbebop44 i think you maybe are a muslim ?

as i see it, it is ok religion is religion

peace einbebop44

 

the Atlantis legend is maybe the minoan civilisation that was brought to a hard stop when the volcano on Thera (santorini is it called today)
erupted in Greece (did i spell it right ?)

 

Well, Neanderthals were not "stupid," in fact they had a larger brain to body ratio than we modern humans (!) They used fire, made complex stone tools, and even buired thier dead with flowers in the grave (indicitive that maybe they had some kind of religion?)

But they had a few major disadvantages against humans:

1) Thier lynrx (or however you spell it, the voice box) was placed higher in the throat, which means they had a smaller vocal range, which means they had less language ability that Homo Sapiens.

So, a Neaderthal learns how to make a tool, but can't effectively pass that knowledge on to it's offspring, while a human can.

There is evidence that Neanderthals and early humans traded (tools and the like.) However if you put a stone knife made by a Neanderthal and one by an early human next to each other, it doesn't take a scientist to see which one made which.

Greater tool making skills allowed humans to do things like make clothes to protect from the cold, fish hooks, kill larger game (spears with detachable heads that get stuck in the mammoth or whatever as opposed to spears made by sharpened sticks that leave superficial puntcure wounds,) etc.

2) They were adapted to live in the freezing cold of the ice age, with a stockier boy type, while human beings are more adapted to savannah type enviroments (at the time.) So, the heat dispersal pattern of a Neanderthal is much less effcient than a human (with a human standing at high noon, less of the body is exposed to the sun and perspiration is a lot more effective, unlike say a zebera, so a human can hunt at a time when most animals are forced to rest in the shade. Not so with a Neaderthal, who becasue of his gait overheats more easily.) So that's why Neaderthals never spread outside of ice age Europe.

3) Beleive it or not, a more developed chin contributes to language ability also. All other primate lines have a simian shelf (a reverse-chin) that reinforces the jaw, great when your diet consists of eating hard nuts, roots, etc. But when you have a chin, although your jaw is more fragile, you have greater range of moement, which lead to a more developed language abilty, which is turn problably lead to greater intelligence.

Some people think Neanderthas interbred with early humans (look at hairy ass Robin Williams for instance.) We don't know if the two species are close enough to be genetically compatible. Looking at some people I wouldn't doubt it.

Shit, I have a pretty hairy chest myself.

 

eventually we'll be hairless...

 

Hawanja: the proof to the interbreeding has been found n Israel so they have interbred with eachother they found a child that had signs of being a child of a Neanderthal and a Cro Magnon.

and the latin name for the neanderthals is Homo Sapiens Neanderthalensis.

 

Really? They found a cross-breed cromagnon/neanderthal? Well, that explains why I'm hung like a caveman.

 

Hawanja: yes sir ! i am not babbling nonsense out at all

the things i say i have either read seen in TV or i know it and it is my blessing/curse is that i have a photographic memory and the thing we call in Denmark sticky brain.

(i have it because i have Aspergers Syndrom) and that is not an illness but it is becoming a popdiagnose :-/ and AS people are not idiots (in the sense of stupidity and the likes )

 

I find the fact most of this stuff is being "backed up" with crappy sci-fi pics of Aliens funny.

"if it was fake, how did they know to make the nose like that?"



Here is my alien, now it must be real because I "knew" that they have one eye, a trunk, and tank tracks, see? proof they are real and look like this!

 

Vroom Vrroom! huh?

 

Oh man... that's some funny shit. I was laughing for like an hour.

I think the most compelling evidence for ancient alien contact comes from cave paintings, rock drawings, etc from native/primitive peoples around the world. Some of the figures on those paintings definitely don't look human to me.

For example:



Compare how the man palying the flute is protrayed as a blank stick figure (very common in early art) with the horizontal man next to the sun shape on the right. Notice he has horns or annatnne or something, and his head is a hollow "O."

Shit, look at this one: