Need some advice on recording voice while gaming

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  1. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Friends, I've been able to capture and do voice over of games but until today it would be just my voice now it's a bit different.

    I'm about to receive an HDMI capture card to use with my HD gaming systems that have surround 5.1 speakers hooked to it.
    Besides that I want to record with video me and a friend playing, more or less like the Angry Nerd does with his friend Mike.

    My question is: how can I record our voice without getting a lot of echo from the game system.
    I'm assuming there will be echo since the card will get the sound direct from the system and the microphone getting our voice will also get the sound from the surround speakers.

    Any ideas how to accomplish that?
     
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    Don't use speakers, use headphones.
     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    How can I chat with my friend using headphones?

    The idea is both of us hanging out during the recording.
     
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    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    get some headsets with noise cancelling mics or just some noise cancelling mics to wear on yourselves and similar to what they would do in a tv studio for live broadcasts, other than that the option is very expensive professional mic or have the game sound only outputting in the recording which wouldnt be fun.

    you would perhaps be able to filter out some of the echo/ unwanted game audio with an audio editing program like "Audacity"(free and open source)
     
  5. Fandangos

    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Hey synrgy, what kind of noise cancelling mic are you talking about?

    I'm doing some research on boom microphones and directional microphones.


    Do you have any microphone brand or model that you could comment?
     
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    If your friend is in the same room, you'll probably be able to hear both each other and the sound from the game (don't use any fancy noise canceling headphones, obviously).

    If this is not the case, assuming you are running everything through your computer, depending on if you are running Windows, OS X or Linux, you can use an application like virtual audio cable, sound flower or JACK to pipe in the audio from your mics to your headphones.
     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    So the idea is using headphones but having a separate channel for we hear each other and also recording the game?

    The thing is.. I'll be using Avermedia HD with HDMI to record the gameplay.. adding a computer and using headphones kind kill the mood :-/
     
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    Yeah, the applications I mentioned are like virtual mixing boards, so you choose to send the specific inputs to the outputs you want.

    You're using something that doesn't connect to a PC? I've never worked with something like that before. I would run everything through the computer just to get more control over everything. I don't think it would kill the mood, it's kinda standard. For example, sports announcers use this type of set up with an earpiece/headphone & mics.
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    The answer to your solution is plain and simple. Have the game audio captured via HDMI as you are doing. Then use normal mics to record you and a friend then mix it together in post production. Simple. That's how I do it. The only downside is that you can't have the speakers that the game audio is coming out of too loud otherwise it's going to be picked up by the mic that you and your friend are using. While this isn't a problem in its self it will be a right bitch to match the captured audio track of the game with the background ambient track that the mic pics up. So as I said, keep the TV volume low.
     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Thank you, Yakumo.

    What kind of mic would you suggest? 2 lapel microphones or one boom microphone?
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    2 lapel mics would be best since they are designed to only pick up close sounds such as your voice. A boom mic may pick up the sound from the TV more than you would like.
     
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    If you get annoying "pop" sounds when saying words that start or end with "P" wrap a a cloth around the mic. That should help ;)
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    That's good advice! I use bit of tissue paper on mine to reduce the "p" popping sound. Works really well.
     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Ordered 2 lapel mics from ebay UK.

    Hope it arrive soon.
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I have a Sony stereo lapel / tie mic but it's pretty low in the voulme department. I think it needs to be run through an amp first.
     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Hey Yakumo, since we are talking about recording, which camera did you use on the XRGB mini review?
     
  17. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    That was a Panasonic GH2. I had some issues with the aperture when doing that video as I was still new to using it. If you want to see what sort of quality that camera can really pull off then check out this video I made. Best to watch it in 1080p if YouTube haven't pulled it. I've noticed a lot of 1080p videos now only available in 720p.

     
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    Fandangos <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    WOW!!

    That quality is amazing and 1080p isn't working indeed.

    Sad part is that this camera costs $1500 here.

    The Panasonic GH2 is also expensive in Japan?
     
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