new neo geo/ sammy atomiswave stuff?

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  1. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    i was looking for some metal slug wallpapers for my pc and i wanted to see what metal slug 6 would do on a google search. i was expecting to see links to message boards with people wishing about it and stuff, but instead found pages that stated metal slug 6 will be the first metal slug not to be on neo geo systems, but on the atomiswave.
    is this total Bs or what?
     
  2. id-republix

    id-republix Guest

    as much as i detest sammy and the AW utterly - what did you expect really?

    Metal Slug 6 on the MVS?
     
  3. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    Most likely since neo geo was officaly no longer supported after samuari showdown v. With alot more power i can only imagine how good it will look.
     
  4. Baseley09

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    Why do you treat them and their product with such distain??
     
  5. Calpis

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    Its not most likely now, its a fact. Sadly the Neo Geo has been discountinued. (Hopefully it'll bring the the Neo scene to its death too! :) Love the console, hate the people.
     
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    i would love like everyone else if neo geo made another real arcade home machine to go along with the arcade boards.
     
  7. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    I'd love to see them continue to push out MVS games... they're just lazy (subcontracting games to Koreans and all...)
     
  8. cahaz

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    im sorry but you will never saw any games released on the neo-geo MSV. that's sad , i know, but that's the truth!

    in my perfect world, sega and snk would do a new system togheter.... they are both arcade axed (well, snk is more arcade axed than sega...but) , they have a link that already conect them togheter (sammy) , they have a huge lot of fan that await for their new system , they need a new system an they have something to gain from each other.

    god , i would like this! a 2d/3d gaming console with sonic and metal slug on the same console .... on this console only. :-D
     
  9. id-republix

    id-republix Guest

    That would be 'disdain'. And because of their hostile and backdoor tactics in the SEGA takeover and attitude towards SEGA execs and SEGA in general - hell the whole hostile takeover itself.

    Anyway - SNK stated that the reason for discontinuing the MVS was hardly aging hardware - it was the rampant piracy. SNK was making good money on the MVS but the rate the pirates were tearing away at the MVS market was hemorrhaging them massive amounts of cash.

    Don't expect to see the MVS or AES back in action again, really. AW is where SNK will be at. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing - possibly a la Aruze - remains to be seen.
     
  10. Baseley09

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    Granted Sammy could have gone about the Sega take over with more tact, but it could be fair to say that without it Sega could be finnished forever, I know what I prefer.

    The blow with the MVS/AES has been pretty easy for me, they should have gone in 2000 when SNK actully died. SNKP........Atomiswave, well its neither here nore there, if the games are good, who are we to moan.
     
  11. id-republix

    id-republix Guest

    I don't know. I would disagree strongly. SEGA's profits had been up continuously - no doubt thanks to it smassive arcade sector profits - but it was becoming profitable nonetheless. So no - SEGA was not in danger of being 'finished' aand so it would hardly be 'fair to say that without it Sega could be finnished forever'. This was a hostile takeover in Sammy's own interests - primarily pachinko-driven ones if Satome's own visions of grandeur are antyhing to go by - first and foremost and is already playing out that way from Satome's rejections of accusations of a takeover to flat out not only doing it, but dissolving SEGA and making it part of a holding company. SEGA never had an option of 'join Sammy or die'. It was taken over without control over the takeover.

    I also disagree strongly with the viewpoint that treats the takeover as some sort of bailing out of SEGA a ala -Playmore/SNK. SEGA, it should be kept in mind - its exec board as well as the studios - did not want Sammy. They rejected Sammy's numerous overtures towards a merger.
    Rather Sammy after this rejection went behind closed doors to CSK and bought out the controlling-interest shares that it did which later put Satome in the position for a ful-blown takeover that SEGA execs, as unwilling as they were, could do nothing about and furthermore lost their positions on the executive board to Sammy execs and had their studios dissolved under Satome's order. This is what happened.

    Whatever others may think is hardly my concern or place to comment, but I do 'moan' over this because it means the death of the SEGA that I knew . Whether SEGA's outout is given the relative freedom it traditonally has been given or is strongly regulated and directed by Sammy is also a major concern, seeing as how this sort of thing has played out in the past (see Aruze-SNK).


    Going back on topic after wildly going off it, if what I hear of KOF: MI's quality is anything to go by, then SNK fans hopefully have nothing to worry about- hopefully.
     
  12. Baseley09

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    More money was coming into SEGA, but they never did get out of the red, in fact the last financial year was worse for them than the previous. In the short term they were going to survive, but realistically needed huge financial backing in the long term.

    It's probably true that we have seen the last of classic SEGA, there were flashes during the Dreamcast and since that SEGA had tried to appeal to the Playstation market with copycat goods. They sold out. It's over :angry
     
  13. Anthaemia.

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    Atomiswave

    Is it easier to create and market a new system, or do you simply relaunch an old console with new software? Sega knows the answer to this question, but whether Sammy will let them fully resurrect the Dreamcast is another issue entirely. SNK and Sega are both supporting the Atomiswave, which is essentially an upgrade of the existing NAOMI architecture, so why don't they just start releasing conversions of their arcade titles for the Dreamcast? Sammy could even find a home for some of their better coin-op games, though it's unlikely that this will ever happen - still, it's good to dream...

    While they're at it, why don't Sega convert some games from the ill-fated Hikaru board as well? That particular piece of hardware never stood a chance, being succeeded by the NAOMI2 after only a few decent releases! It's not as if the Dreamcast is THAT inferior to other 128-bit consoles, though when the next generation does arrive Sega could still promote their system as a budget or retro machine. After all, SNK did this for years with the MVS, so what's stopping Sega from doing the same? They're still publishing new Dreamcast software (even if it is one game every full moon!), so why not dedicate their new Sammy-backed resources into a full comeback?
     
  14. id-republix

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    Re: Atomiswave

    Because they do not direct those funds, nor SEGA''s own. As of Oct. 1st SEGA Enterprises will be dissolved, made part of the new holding company, and directed 100% by Sammy CEO Satan - err, Satome - and his executive board.
     
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