New to Ebay. First sale just listed. Feedback wanted.

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  1. dakidski

    dakidski Retro Gaming Denmark

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    Hi Assembler Forum.
    Decade-long lurker here.

    I just listed my first Ebay-sale after having it pricechecked in the Price Cheking Forum. It's a promo ps2 pal copy of Resident Evil 4.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=291231969424

    I'm really new though, and I could really use some help. I'ts all terribly frightening selling items on Ebay.

    Could someone look at my listing and give me feedback? I'm not trying to stealth-sell it here, but would really appreciate any and all feedback.

    Am I doing it right? Is the listing filled out correctly? Is it posted in the right category? What about shipping costs? I don't really know how much shipping will cost me, so can I negotiate it with the dealer afterwards?

    (I'm a bit lazy, so I probably set the price too high, that much I know...)

    I'd be interested in all feedback, even tiny details.

    Regards,
    Dakidski
     
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  2. Tripredacus

    Tripredacus Peppy Member

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    I tell the same thing to anyone who is new to ebay. Resist the urge to sell right away. Go and buy some cheap items, like 50 things for $1 to get some feedback. Then do some selling.
     
  3. Decades

    Decades Robust Member

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    Buyers look at the shipping cost before buying/bidding and factor in the price, so it would be best to include that in the auction. Right now it says £10 to post to Norway, but checking the Danish postal serice it would only cost 36 DKK. It's really easy to find the cost on the Danish postal service page. Just make a shipping "rule" for Denmark, one for Europe, and one for rest of world. Tip: Games are small enough to be sent as "letters", does not have to be "package".

    Also, expensive... What's up with the ludicrous buy it now price? I remember your pricing info thread, I think this and Haunting Ground were undervalued (I'd pay more than you were quoted in the thead if I didn't have them already), but £40 is too much.
     
  4. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    The User Feedback Forum isn't for this - it's for leaving feedback when you conduct a transaction with a user on this site. Moving to Off Topic.

    I wouldn't list it as like new - it makes your additional description come up as a sub-header, which is offputting. List it as used, then it should say see description for details. That's where you put something like "there are some surface marks on the jewel case, but it is otherwise perfect."

    Don't guess shipping costs, and you can't say you'll work it out afterwards. It's not hard - get a box or Jiffy bag to put it in (factor in the cost of that), weigh it and look it up on your local post office website. At the moment, it's listed as £3 shipped to the UK, which you'll have to accept.

    I agree that it is an expensive start bid and a very high Buy It Now. As you were told in your price check, don't expect it to go for a lot more than the retail version - which sells for £6-10. In fact, a promo copy sold recently for £22.23, which is probably about right. You're very unlikely to get £40 for it, and there's no way you'll get £100.
     
  5. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Corrected that for you.

    Unless Ebay has changed dramatically since I last sold on there, it is no more effort to list at a sensible price than it is a silly inflated price. And you even asked people here what value it had. So where exactly does this laziness come in?

    I'm guessing you think you have 'the rares'. Maybe you do, just not in this case. A decade long lurker would have picked up a bit more sense I feel. Laughable.
     
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  6. Lamont

    Lamont Site Supporter 2015

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    I paid less than that for both the Clock Tower 3 and Haunting Ground promos (to which, I even double-checked with the sellers on what they felt was a decent price). I've also seen a large amount of factory sealed copies of Haunting Ground (UK and the Australian classified sleeve variant with both the original and the newer classification look), so there's more copies going around due to a reprint so it's devalued from around $150 for a mint copy previously, $50-$75 for a retail copy down to around $20....

    So I think that anything between $20-$40 USD (or $30-$60 AUD, or roughly around 20 to 30 pounds) would be an alright price when keeping that in mind, given that 40 pounds would be like, $80-$100-ish in the end and you, yourself said that it's too much.

    The only one that hasn't had a reprint is the US copy and that's why the price is still higher on that particular version. The Japanese versions' are roughly around the same prices as I've listed for the PAL versions.

    Then you've got others that would argue as a promo copy, lacking a manual should also be cheaper too.

    So I just wanted to give the guy a decent price that I didn't feel like he would be getting ripped off or ripping someone else off and is along the same pricing I would personally use as I check the going prices of CT stuff daily both online and offline (a few vintage stores around here have had brand new stock) for if and/or when I want to clean out some doubles.

    I thought it was a fair price but that's also given that we don't know: his location (at the time), the currency he was wanting to know the prices in, the exact condition, how much he may have paid (if he had to pay for them, I ended up with lots of promo copies of things from retail work) so they could be priced higher if he's trying to recoup costs but that's going to be offset by the cheaper full, retail copies unless someone is specifically collecting: PS2 games, PS2 promos, survival horror titles, Capcom titles or is a fellow Clock Tower/Demento collector.

    That said mate, what would you have said in USD for it (HG) in contrast, out of genuine curiosity?

    That way I can restructure my pricing notes from how I currently do them, as I'm used to getting ripped off via retail in my own country and don't want to screw over or get anyone else screwed over in terms of pricing.

    Anyway. Going off the point there. And my head is killing me with this bloody flu.

    So before I forget.... In terms of feedback on the listing, putting the general product blurb in or copying and pasting the summary off Wikipedia (or some game review sites which include screenshots) would probably help newer buyers.

    And do some general purchases or some general smaller sales to build up some quality feedback, I typically don't buy from sellers on eBay with zero feedback unless I know the seller from somewhere, like here as I'll otherwise conduct private transactions with them to avoid them from dealing with eBay fees. Unless you have a few bits of feedback that are 97% positive upwards, I'll still end up reading the feedback you've gotten and if the feedback has been crap, then I'll end up looking for the item elsewhere regardless of the price.

    Check the going rate from your local post office on some basic parcel weight/sizes, surely your post office should have a rough price outline that could be included?

    In terms of pricing, you could also check for what items have gone for in the last few months for a general bit and then ask collectors and/or members on here or other forums for a general idea of what people would feel to be a decent price.
     
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  7. dakidski

    dakidski Retro Gaming Denmark

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    I was thinking the trip down to the post office etc. Tbh this is more of a test-sale. But thank's for your feedback. It might sell, it just might. If not, I'll relist it lower. As I wrote, this is a learning process for me. If all goes well, then I'm going to sell out from my NGC collection afterwards.Regards,

    thanks.

    I'll check the postal service prices and figure out how to make a rule, thanks alot

    I'll relist it at a lower starting price.


    I'm not even sure. Guess I was thinking more about creating the listing in the first place.
    If you are interested, PM me and make me an offer.
    Get well soon and I appreciate the feedback.

    Thanks alot, very useful!
     
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  8. Lamont

    Lamont Site Supporter 2015

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    Ah, that was more directed at Decades as he's also begun collecting some of the same things I have been and I was curious as to what price he would put onto things given he knows how I get my price estimates and I thought the price (and the reason why I said that price) was quite fair.

    That's alright mate, I don't need another promo HG copy at the current time. I'm in the process of cleaning out excessive duplicates as Clock Tower/Haunting Ground is my main series in terms of what I collect.
     
  9. Decades

    Decades Robust Member

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    Lamont,

    You're lucky you got Clock Tower 3 promo cheap, I wanted it at the same time and knew the seller, but kept out of it given you had looked for it for so long. :)

    Your currency conversion may have thrown me off a bit, "$20-$40 USD or roughly around 20 to 30 pounds" doesn't really compute. £30/$50 is probably as much as he'll ever get. I have seen it cheaper, but most often at local eBay sites like eBay.fr. I'd be happy to pay as much if I didn't already have it. I was looking for this for quite some time, actually. If he had the German USK variant I would have thrown in three digits.

    As for Haunting Ground, the promo rarely appears so you never know. It could go for quite a lot, it's a survival horror game promo after all. It doesn't matter that it's missing a manual or that there was a reprint a few years ago, because the people who want promos buy promos because they are promos. The 1000000 people who doesn't want this doesn't matter, the three people in the world who want it does. :)

    If I had a spare HG promo I would have listed it for $50 as an auction and see how it went.
     
  10. afccarl1994

    afccarl1994 Rapidly Rising Member

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    Remember ebay will generally side with buyers, so regardless of the fact you have put in the description that you will work out postage costs afterwards, a buyer is under no obligation to pay any extra charges you might try and add after the listing has ended. £3 postage to the UK seems a bit cheap.

    If you are not sure of postage costs, make sure the item is listed so you can guarantee the postage will be covered. You can always give postage refunds to keep people happy if the actual postage cost is a lot less than they paid. For local postage, you could always list with free P+P and add a bit on to the item price.
     
  11. Lamont

    Lamont Site Supporter 2015

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    Yeah, though if I had known that someone was going to e-mail me a couple of weeks later (someone sent me an email as they didn't know why their disc was silver and blue, but they didn't have the sleeve apparently, don't know the condition other than that) about one I would've told you to take it! I thought that you had one already because you usually come across the actually decent and more interesting items.

    I usually knock a few dollars off if here's surface wear too. I dunno, honestly put my head's all over this place as this cold won't go. Though, I do agree about the German promo variant.
     
  12. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Moved your listing to the eBay section. You've had your advice, so this topic is closed. Use the eBay thread to post listings from now on, please.
     
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