Old news it seems, but has anybody seen this system called Generation Nex looks pretty nice with the front loader for NES games and the top slot for fami games. Also the wireless controller support makes it a competitor against the next gen systems . Ha, it looks like they pulled a 360 'core' edition too since you have to buy the wireless controller seperately.
Ｙｅａｈ， ｗｅ ｈａｄ ａ ｆｅｗ ｐｉｃｔｕｒｅｓ ｏｆ it a couple of months ago. I think GSL was the one who brougt it to our attention. There's a newish one out here in Japan called the Familator (Famicom/Emulator). It sort of looks like a fat shor famicom. Yakumo
Pretty much. I think it's cool that theres both Famicom and NES slots, but it still won't work with some games, and the sound is going to be weird.
From what I've heard, Messiah is really working hard on making it as compatable with as many different games and mapper/sound chips as possible. Also, a trip to their FAQ disproves the Famicom-on-a-chip conjecture. I'm just happy there's a clone marketed to non-Japanese consumers that will play NES and Famicom games - I've got a perfectly functional NES, but this will save the wear and tear on its cart slot as well as give me reason to stop tearing apart every 10-Yard Fight cart I run across in search of an adaptor. And that system posted by Kotodama looks flat-out awesome. :-D Maybe I'll just get one of those, if they run cheap...
Hahaha! Are you really that naive? Did you read their entire FAQ. It is full of nothing more than fluff. Do you really believe that the Famicom and Nintendo games themselves prevent S-video output? Ever heard of the Famicom Titler? It played Famicom games and had S-video output. Don't be surprised when somebody opens up a NEX system, takes pics, and posts them on the web so that everybody can see that it in fact does use a NES-on-a-chip.
I would tend to think that the NEX really does use a standard Famicom on a chip, too (though what's wrong with that, I don't know, I can't fathom NES audio/video-philes, it's like being a feces connoisseur). However, as for the Titler, I don't think it actually outputs Famicom games through s-video. The s-video is just for the titler part, you need to use composite to play games. That's my understanding at least. ...word is bondage...
Nope, the Famicom Titler (I have one) has an RGB PPU built-in, which it converts to S-Video and Composite outputs. If you draw out the RGB lines to a connector, you can then play Famicom games using RGB, S-Video, or Composite.
NOACs also have game compatibility issues and peripherial compatibility issues, in addition to the A/V inaccuracies. So you are better off with a NES emulator running on a PC hooked up to your TV. You'd get better game compatibility and A/V accuracy. Either that or get a refurbished Famicom or NES. It would cost less money, and not have any of the compatibility issues.
Adaptors are somewhat common in mexican Flea Markets. Contact me if you ever need one, and I'll be on the look. Now, this NEX thing, it does look awesome - but I'd love one with enhanced options (optional, of course, so you can enjoy the original way NES works). Of course, there's also IMBNes, that's pretty much 100% equal to the real thing, but with a menu. It's like the ULTIMATE multicart.
Not entirely sure, but I believe it has something to do with compatability issues - apparently, the FC-on-a-chip systems don't handle certain mappers as well as the original hardware did. Then again, I've heard it all depends on your Famiclone, as well. I almost hate to take the time to respond to jackassery like this, but I think the point should be made that there are more polite ways of disagreeing with people than calling them 'naive' as if you're the sole inhabitant of some higher intellectual plane. If you'll look at my original post, I said nothing about the S-video out (which is obviously a hardware issue and - to their credit - Messiah DID mention was possible) but rather, the statement in the FAQ that said they were not pursuing a NOAC design and instead working towards their own custom chipset. When the only real information on a piece of hardware is courtesy of the company making it, the burden of proof obviously lies upon anyone making claims towards the effect that the official data or FAQs are wrong.
The only concrete complaints I've heard about Famicom-on-a-chip systems is the munky sound and the vertical banding on the screen. The banding can actually be fixed by placing a cap on some internal video line and quite a few pirate systems have that, I expect the Generation NEX would, too, assuming it does use the pirate chip. The audio, there's no fix for, but it just doesn't seem like a big deal to me since the NES's audio is shitty anyway. The compatibility stuff gets mentioned, but I've never seen a list of games that are supposed not to work. My copy or Rockman 4 doesn't work in my Tristar64, but does work in both other Famiclones I have, so maybe you're right about it depending on the particular Famiclone. Wonder why that would be? Maybe the design of the Famicom-on-a-chip changed over time. ...word is bondage...
I've heard Castlevania 3, on account of one of the Konami mappers, is supposed to give Famiclones a hard time. They also have mention of this in the FAQ. I'd test my copy of CV3 out on this Power Joy clone I picked up at Goodwill the other day, except it has no power adaptor for it. Any idea what sort of voltage this bad boy requires?
All Famicom clones I've seen use a 9V >500mA center negative adapter. A Genesis/TurboGrafx/Jaguar AC adpater should work. Castlevania 3 does work on at least one of my Famiclones (it's Power Joy style one shaped like a Dreamcast controller with a cartridge slot sort of where the VMU would go). I never played it very much since I only have the US cart and you can imagine how unstable those tall carts are on top of a NES-to-Famicom converter plugged into a weak pirate cartridge connector with no support and all bouncing around on top of the top of the controller as you're trying to play. But it does start up fine and I've even started up games, so unless the mapper in question only comes into play later in the game, Castlevania 3 should be good. ...word is bondage...
The one that might have trouble is the Japanese Castlevania 3 (Akumajo Densetsu), that has that special chip/thing that greatly improves sound and enhances graphics somewhat. That other Konami shooter also had that chip... Crisis something.
Sorry for upsetting some people. I am just getting tired of people spouting off marketing fluff as if it were facts. This applies to Messiah and even mainstream companies like Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft with their "next-gen" systems. My reaction to the repeating of Messiah's FAQ contents is that you'd have to be crazy to believe their FAQ "answers" assuming you have read them. They are full of fluff. They are trying to sell you something, and will tell you anything to make a sale. There are many reasons for believing that they are using a pre-existing NES-on-a-chip. See the digitpress.com forums for the details. If you want to see a sample of the compatibility issues with Famicom/NES clones, check out this review of the USA version of the Neofami aka Yobo FC Game Console: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=67476 It lists 11 popular games that do not work correctly. It is by no means comprehensive, and there are surely more games that have compatibility issues. Also, the Neofami is known to be one of the better clones, and yet it still has worse compatibility than the better software based emulators: FCEUltra and Nintendulator! Once the NEX is officially released, we somebody can do a full review, crack one open and take pics of the inside, as well as test it with every game and peripherial. Until then, buyer beware.
