Nintendo 64 - NUS-001(FRA) - De-blur ?

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  1. BenjmainLSR

    BenjmainLSR Active Member

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    Hey ASSEMBlers !

    I have a question for you all. I do own a RGB modded NUS-001(FRA) but what I'm looking for is a way to get the de-blur mod on my N64 without actionreplay.

    Any idea ?
     
  2. atkfromabove

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    You are wanting to have the anti aliasing fix is what it sounds like. The only ways I've heard of doing this without a GameShark is with the UltraHDMI mod but it's pretty pricey mod although it looks great.
     
  3. MrMario2011

    MrMario2011 Robust Member

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    I believe if you have a flashcart you can also patch your ROMs directly.
     
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    I think you can with the everdrive but that is using the built in GameShark capabilities still.
     
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    Thank you all for your prompt answers. It looks like I'll have to look for a N64RGB board if I don't want to modify N64 external aspect and don't want to use a not so chic GameShark.

    But I don't think I have the skill to solder one and it's uncommon if not impossible to find N64RGB modded in France as we're all using the "official components" technic to get RGB signal over Scart.
     
  6. borti4938

    borti4938 Robust Member

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    He could also install a RGB mod using the replacement DAC by viletim and update the firmware with an in-official firmware which supports de-blur ;)
    https://github.com/borti4938/n64rgb
     
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  7. BenjmainLSR

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    Do you know anyone on this forum doing modding on N64 ?
    I don't have the soldering skills to do it (trust me...).
     
  8. atkfromabove

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    I had no idea this existed! Thanks for posting it. I just did the RGB mod on my N64 last week but this would be a great improvement.
    I am not sure if there is anyone that offers to install these here. I haven't checked real heavily though. Are you in the US or Europe?
     
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  9. TriState294

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    I think you're getting confused here. Two distinctly different strategies are being discussed here that both yield similar (but not the same) results.

    The Gameshark method (or patching the ROM, if you will) modifies the game code to prevent object blurring in the first place. This is not really deblurring an established video signal, but rather a method to disable the blurring effect from ever being applied in the first place.

    Retroactive's UltraHDMI and Tim Worthington's RGB board with Borti's custom firmware allow you to process the video after it has been generated by the N64 to remove some of the blurring. This is essentially a sophisticated video filter (if I understand things correctly). I have not tried Borti's firmware yet, but I know the UltraHDMI kit does this pretty well.

    You can attempt either strategy, or both, depending on your tastes and usage preferences. Remember, that most of the blurring effects were consciously applied by game developers to provide a smoother image. If you want to coax out sharp pixels out of these games, you can with the methods above. However, this is not an objectively truer representation of the original game design. Still, I personally like the sharp pixels better. The point is, there is not an objective "original intent" standard to compare to (except the blurred image that you didn't like in the first place), so just play with the two strategies above until it looks good to you.
     
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    BenjmainLSR Active Member

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    I'm living in France.

    Thanks for that clear answer. The fact is, their is SO MUCH Blur coming out from the N64 I found some of the games basically unplayable, even with a true RGB signal coming from the SCART.

    I would love to test the N64RGB mod with firmware update.
     
  11. TriState294

    TriState294 Site supporter 2016

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    As would I. I don't believe there are any solid visual comparisons including Borti's firmware yet.

    I would offer my services, but as I'm in the USA, I believe shipping would make this a costly affair.
     
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    Well if you're also able to install the de-blur firmware let me know your price by PM :) I'm fine to pay a good price for good hand crafting :)
     
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    borti4938 Robust Member

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    I live in Germany and would do it, too ;)
    Do you have already the modding board in hand or not? If not, I know somebody who might has some left (Daniel from http://www.videogamesreanimate.de/)

    @TriState294: Please don't see me as a 'deal breaker'. I just wanted to give him an alternative within the EU. Best for him would be someone living in France.
     
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    Hey borti,

    Thanks for letting me know. Right now i'm still wondering which solution fits me best. ultraHDMI Vs N64RGB+VI de-blur firmware.

    I'm using a 55" 1080p TV with my Ps1, Ps2, Dreamcast and my SAMSUNG TV is doing a great job with SCART RGB signal.

    Are you also doing the ultraHDMI mod ?
     
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    borti4938 Robust Member

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    UltraHDMI mod is not a big deal if you have the modding kit. Just leave me a PM or preferably an email.
     
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    Do they still need to be purchased in groups of 3 or more?
     
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    @borti4938 - No offense taken. You are probably his best choice...especially if he chooses your firmware on a Tim Worthington RGB board. Also, I'm interested in how your deblur looks in comparison to the UltraHDMI deblur. If nobody has both mods available to them, I may have to buy a board and do some comparison shots...

    Yes...and they're sold in fairly small batches. I think the last batch sold out in less than five minutes.
     
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    Dang I'd definitely like one to install on my n64 they seem like the best way to go for getting image quality.
     
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    Thanks everyone for your prompt answers. What if I decide to go for N64RGB with modded firmware and Frame Meister mini (as I also want to upscale all my other consoles) ?

    Sounds like an option right ?
    Frame Meister + RGB might get me close to ultraHDMI ?
     
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    I think it would get you close and would be nice for other retro RGB consoles as well. If you have a few consoles that you would use with it I think the value would be better for your money. If you were only wanting it for the N64 I would do the UltraHDMI since it is cheaper and less proprietary than SCART.
     
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