Nintendo 64 - Region mod

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  1. AlmostOriginal

    AlmostOriginal Spirited Member

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    Is it possible to direct wire a Nintendo 64 game cic to make it region free? (I guess i have to cut some traces)
    or is it not that easy?

    Also is it possible to take the ?Motherboard CIC? from a NTSC system and put it in a PAL system? (To play NTSC-"J" in 50hz)


    I got the ideas from this adapter.
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  2. Lum

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    N64 has color mode in hardware. hz and resolution in software.

    Normally you'll need a PAL60 ready TV.
    The PAL system defaults (unless modified otherwise) NTSC games to their original 60hz, at NTSC number of lines. Except with PAL color.
     
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  3. marqs

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    There are multiple CIC variants so wiring one to to the MB only gives you partial compatibility, although most games use 6102 (NTSC) / 7101 (PAL). Wiring the internal PIF chip from another region's N64 parallel to the local PIF has worked for me quite well, but it needed 9 pins switched.
     
  4. Lum

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    Yeah the hardware mod idea probably isn't very cost effective unless you're confident to do it yourself. By the time one paid shipping/parts/labor to have another person add NTSC support, it'll still IIRC have less somewhat less compatibility than a normal NTSC N64.

    Though I can't say much about PAL N64. I doubt I've even spotted one single cartridge in person with my own eyes. Let alone the console.
     
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  5. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Really, you're better off owning both systems then "trying" to make one region free, besides the tabs are different sizes so you'd have to cut or remove the whole door part.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You can just remove the tabs... no need to remove the door.

    But, my kingdom for a PIF (CIC) clone like supercic
     
  7. AlmostOriginal

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    Thank you all for your help.
     
  8. Lum

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    No problem. Most anything PAL is rare as all heck here, makes me a bit jealous or something. Reminds me I'll one of these days want to get a euro gamecube and dreamcast game to test my modchip...
     
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    I have a bunch of misc dreamcast games.

    If you dont want anything in particular, I am sure there is something you can have for just postage.
     
  10. APE

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    I need to get a PAL Gamecube but mainly so that I can have RGB output without needing a component cable.
     
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    All you have to do is ask :)
     
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    Forgot to mention, I've been looking for that spare expansion pak but I can't seem to find it now. I've only got <10 N64s so one of them must have it, wherever it is.
     
  13. omp

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    Hey guys, not sure if this has been asked, but can you remove the "key" from a cheap game, disable the lines going to the cart slot and wire up the cart "key"? I have done this before to a PAL SNES as a poor man's region, the only thing is it breaks compatibilty with SA-1 chipped games. If worst comes to worst I guess you could switch between the stock lock lines to the added key?
     
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    There are import oriented cartridges that do just that by having you insert a cartridge into the back. The N64 will read the CIC from the cart hanging out the back and boot the game from the top.
     
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    Might give this a crack then, I don't have any NTSC games, but it's an excuse to grab some! If it fails no biggie as I have a couple of NTSC boards here (I got 2 Pikachu N64's and "Australian-ised" them with PAL boards).
     
  16. SnoopKatt

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    If you take a dremel to the inside corners of the N64, that will make any cartridge fit. Perfect fix for getting Japanese games to play, but getting PAL games to play is a different story.

    A year or two back, I read something about a guy who supposedly got it to work by doing some sort of crazy contraption by taking the video parts of a PAL N64 and making a switch box (it was all inside the N64). I remember it being extremely complicated, and it still needed a converter box to get it to work on an NTSC TV. Either way, your best bet is to probably just get a PAL N64 with a converter box and leave it alone.
     
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    Do you need to do anything to an N64 in order to get a US model to run Japanese games, other than removing the tabs?
     
  18. Lum

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    Nothing. There's little difference between US vs Japan N64. Just a removable dust cover.
    Much like SNES, just do whatever's necessary to drill/saw/scissors/dremel those tabs away.

    N64 Gameshark may also work to some extent. Its shell is shaped to convert both directions.

    Gamecube is a matter of installing US/Japan toggle switch, similar to Genesis.
     
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