The revolution really seems to resurect the flame of nintendo fboys. http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2686716?htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12&htv=12 i hope they did that with humor as a purpose, still entertaining.
At last cahaz! The one Nintendo thread by you that grabs my attention! :lol: Thanks a ton for that one. Just too hillarious (and sad in a way) for me! :thumbsup:
gates didn't kill mario. His fat ass partying 7 times, then playing DDR, softball, soccer, golf, racing, and tennis did.
What a piece of crap! the animation, terrible, the script looks like the work of a 5 year old kid that still believes in santa and the tooth fairy. You know, these stupid ass fanboys of nintendo are a paradox in themselves. They were the stupid casuals of the nes and snes and now they complain about PS2 and Xbox casuals, is like a nazi making fun of an al-qaeda member:110: Old games werent that cool, the problem is that: a- there was nothing better than that at the time being. b- you were younger, and therefore, naive. Today we have games that have nothing to envy from the movies, both in the graphical (FEAR) and scrip and production (Indigo Prophecy) depts. Guys, do you remember how stupid the scripts from those games were? I mean, most of them didnt had a real story, they just created a 1 page intro like the one in happy meals. In fack the professional writers that make fun of games in TV series are, in fact making fun of THOSE games, because today some games have a better script that most hollywood movies. Is like with anime: sure saint seiya and dragon ball Z were cool, but you cant compare it with FMA in both depth and overal quality. And if you compare both stories, DBZ looks kinda childish against FMA. Anyways, grown up and fuck off.... PS: before you start yellin at me, this was directed at nintendo fanboys in general, not to anyone in this forum (cuz I havent seen one of them here anyways...)
It was a good video Shadowlayer if you forget about the fan boy crap. I liked it and I'm no Nintendo fanboy ! Oh and yeah Nintendo was never cool in my book during the FC/NES days and Dragonball Z was crap when it was released : Yakumo
Thank you. I'm always happy when i see someone else mention this. This industry has been divided by 3 groups (hardcore gamers, company fanboys, & casual gamers) and all 3 are trying to piss all on the others. Also meh to the video. I guess i just dont find them funny anymore after being around the IGN boards so much. :banghead:
My take on fanboyism, is that it is OK to be a fanboy or be obsessed with retro-games/nintendo/snk/sony/whatever. It is just how you express things, now me, I love 2D fighters, RPGs and only play Japanese games. I don't tell anyone that my way is right and I don't listen to anyone tell me otherwise. The problem with fanboyism is when people start to stuff it down your throat, or when people react to this by telling them to stick this said fanboyism where the sun doesn't shine. Fanboys are as bad as your reaction to them. As gamers we all fall into the same broad group. However I have never played Halo/GTA or any other modern western games. So I have bugger all in common with people who only play FPS. We may as well have different hobbies. My gaming life has very little to do with theirs. Therefore the expression of personal favourites between us is utterly pointless. It is a good place to be IMHO, if I say I love to read, and I meet someone else who loves to read, we probably read utterly different things. The fact that gaming is so diverse to accomadate different interests is wonderful, the problem is that often we share the same forums! I just try not to judge, indeed I can't judge because it is an opinion and nothing more. The reason that this the only forum I have ever felt comfortable posting in is that generally we do not judge each others tastes or try to ram them down others throats (the term obscure covers many, many areas). Fine, I may occasionally try and convince people that Renai games are not as bad as people make out - but I don't express anything other than a personal preference. Telling a fanboy they are wrong is making the same mistake they are making. Opinions are not facts. You argue with facts, you compare opinions.
There's a problem with that. You see, if we were discussing about religion (ex: "my god is better than your god") you'll be right, but here we are in an enviroment were everything can be measured by (to say a very precise scale) nanometers. Take for example the cousins of the nintendo fanboys, the Maclovers. Most of them would defy the very logic of computers if they can keep telling you that that program runs faster in an iMac than in a PC with an Athlon64, even if every benchmark that is not from apple says otherwise. People need to believe, but the basis of faith is something that you cant see or measure. Believing in something not only material but highly exact as engineered goods (computers, cars, games, etc..) will always bring you the same sense of despair when a new model comes around. Is like if in christianism suddenly a new and improved jesus appeared. Anyways, the point is that fanatism ALWAYS defys the logic of EVERYTHING standing on their way, like those inbreed talibans that destroy tech and force women to live like dogs. Fanboy=Fanastism And BTW, you're not a fanboy, you're old school, no prob with that.
I whole heartedly agree with you there. I like nintendo. A lot. To me they make better games than any other company, and If I was told I could only every play one companies games, I would choose nintendo's. But I respect everyone elses feelings and take on board both criticisms of nintendo, and reccomendations for non-nintendo games. Until around 2-3 years ago I would never have considered owning a non-nintendo system, now I own many. Basically Everything is fine once you realise that not everyone in the world should share the same beliefs as you - it would make everything bloody boring if we did. Until then, however, you will never get away from the "nintendo 1s teh m05t b35t c0mp4ny eva" style talk. Thats why this place is so great, we have all got different beliefs and ideas, and are willing and enjoy sharing them
I have a problem with that though, since you make the assumption that newer things are automatically better than older things. If you are just referring to the hardware side, then yes newer consoles will be better than the older ones. The problem stems from the software side. Newer story writing is not necessarily better than older stories. Newer gameplay mechanics are not necessarily better than older ones. Why? Because those are based on opinion. Opinions will be different for everyone. I will not get into the fanboy/religion debate, though I do think that they are perfect analogies of each other.
About gameplay, the problem is that there's nothing "new" to compare. Most of the 3D gameplay was already in proto stage in the early 16bits and by 1994 it was being tested in mass market proportions: 3D fighters: VF, Racers: Daytona, Tomb raider like: Vortex, RTS: C&C, FPS: Doom, etc... In the last years the only innovative (or "never before seen") types of gameplay I could see comes from both SEGA and Nintendo in the 128bit era. From JSR to Pikmin, they have created new types of gameplay. Too bad those were commercial failures. About story telling, I have to disagree on that since game writing has evolved a lot. The best way is to compare the old MSX Metal Gears with today MGS series. Is like going from a small Tv sitcom to a full fledged holllywood production.
You've pretty much hit the problem on the head. Every gamer has their taste. Sure in a sense we are fanboys but I don't consider taste to make someone a fanboy. I just more feel that a fanboy is blind loyalty to a name or brand & feel the name to shove it in everybody's face. As for my taste, I give pretty much all games a try. Some of my favorite games are usualy ones that most gamers have yet to try or never heard of. The only games I don't normaly try are sports games since sports are not my cup of tea yet I wont call someone who plays spots game "A Gamer with No Taste." This more refers to why i feel that hardcore gamers & fanboys are of seperate groups (hardcore tend to sometimes bash other's taste in games since they play the more normal/casual games, & fanboys tend to just blindly bash anybody who is not fully behind their company of choice).
But the enjoyability of writing is still a personal taste. For me, I would put the story from FF4 and PS3&4 up against any RPG today. You may like the "full fledged hollywood production" but others like the "small TV sitcom" more.
You're reducing the enjoyment of videogames down to technical specifications. The comparable analogy with religion would be choosing whichever had the nicest looking holy book. It's the content that's important, and the content is subjective. Preference in videogames is down to the individual. If someone is rabidly pro-platform (x), to the exclusion of all others, and berates me for my own choices based on these assumptions, the correct term is "asshole". I guess I don't see the need to bring terminology like "fanboy", "hardcore", "casual" etc into the debate; the more I play videogames and the more diverse game genres get, the less these terms feel like they have any worth. One of the best games I played last year was Resident Evil 4, a game that has shockingly bad dialogue. You're making an implicit assumption that good dialogue is a neccessary part of a good modern videogame - that might indicate some of your preferences, but it certainly isn't representative of mine.
No, what I meant is that since we are in a technical enviroment you shouldn't be able to contradict logic in order to acomodate the reality to your own way of thinking, and that's what fanatics (of anything) do all the time: they see what they want to see. Yeah I know they are assholes, but since we arent casuals we should try to keep a level of politness here. Not really, look at Sonic Adventure 1 and 2: the dialogue is sometimes terrible, but the games are pretty cool indeed. What I meant before with the story of the games was with the overall story, not just the conversations between the characters.
