Now i have a good reason to hate my x360... :(

my old wireless router died and i just made up with the bad luck and went to buy a new one... i choose a nice and high quality belkin wireless router that even has Nas like service through USB port. Then i get home and plug it. all works flawlessly with my 2 desktops and 2 notebooks, way faster net, storage works, stronger wireless signal... All OK!

and then a few day ago i switched on the x360. It sees the wireless connection but won't access LIVE saying that the MTU value is to be changed. So i go on anc heck but the values are ok.

In short? From all that i have gathered x360 wireless adapter is supposed to work only with MICROSOFT CERTIFIED router for LIVE. So my router won't work no matter what.

Any idea? I'm so *******ing pissed that i'm considering selling it all after finishing star ocean...

If someone can help me out he'll get my deepest thanks. And before someone suggests it, i'm NOT going to drill holes in 4 walls to bring a cable to the router...

 

The wireless adapter is only SUPPORTED (eg if you need help) on MS certified routers. However I know for a fact that you can use non certified routers with the Wireless adapter just fine. Until recently I was using the wireless adapter I have with a home built monowall wireless router (may it rest in piece :crying, and I know for a fact that it wasn't MS certified :110.

In anycase, have you tried tuning the MTUs up or down to see if that helps? Also do you know if your router supports UPNP? If not its possible its tossing you that error message because the ports aren't open (I've seen that myself on a few occasions). Its also possible that your router is doing something funny to the packets that makes it seem like the MTU is lower then it should be, possibly because of NAT. Try throwing your Xbox inside the DMZ.

Edit: Also if you using security, make sure its on WPA-PSK w/ either TKIP or AES, if that doesn't help try WEP and then nothing, some routers have weird or bad implementations of the security specs that cause problems.

 

My previous router wasn't certified. I've already tried uping and lovering MTU and it won't help. I've even kept the connection unprotected and unencripted as a test.

what do you mean by UNPN? universal plug and play? how would it be related?
How can i tell if it is a NAT problem?
lastly, DMZ? what is it?

thanks for your help,
karsten

 

DMZ is a "demilitarized zone" or basically, your connection goes around the port blocking / internal firewall. UPNP would be related if you can't connect to live because a port is blocked in your router. Scroll down to the "more information" section here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/908874 and ensure those ports are opened or forwarded to your 360's IP when appropriate (ie: forwarding 80 probably isn't a good idea ).


Have you tried running the connection tests in the 360 to clear any previous settings and establish a new connection for the new router?

 

Try DMZ, not sure how your admin page looks like in your router but you can find it at a tab possibly called: application/gaming/port forwarding/NAT or something like that and you will see DMZ, there you enter the IP of your 360. DMZ (demilitarized zone) like in N/S Korea puts your 360 or whatever IP you put in there out of the security zone and so directly connected to the bad outside world.

 

i did try conection tests and it can reach internet but not live, error page always points to this MTU problem. when i'll get home i'll make a try with this DMZ if i can find it... so i'll just choose fixed ip for the xbox360 and add it to this dmz, right? i hope it'll work!

this problem really made me mad and wasted a lot of my time on internet searches and swearings... not to mention that i had just renewed the subscription to live :/

i'll keep you guys informed, again, thanks for your help

 

you had been warned!

I posted an extensive opinion on how BELKIN sucks for games consoles (mostly speaking for my PS3 and Wii,since i ve got the 360 straight into the router's ass via cable) so I had to return it and snatch a slightly cheaper but vastly superior Netgear router (60 euros).

If you need a model number let me know,it's worth it.

 

posted where? never so it, sadly. i had a netgear, but beside working with the x360 was a really weak item, both as performance wireless coperture.

 

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22321&highlight=router

there you go buddy =)

 

Linksys is another great brand of routers. I've had my WRT54whatever for about three and a half years, and I've never had any problems (not with my DS, PSP, Wii or anything else I've connected to it).

 

tried DMZ.... and guess what? nothing! :/ incredible how everything else works flawlessly! damn you MS and you idiotic live access! it can connect to the net but not to live... and no way it'llget changed back because of defectiveness or such because the only damn thing not working it's the x360 :/

 

If it worked before you swapped the router and it doesn't work now with the new router, logic would dictate that the problem lies with the router as that is the only thing you changed.

It would be foolish to blame the Xbox 360, especially since the 360 wireless adapter works flawlessly with any number of non-certified routers. It's even rock solid with the open source DD-WRT firmware replacement and that isn't certified for anything near as I can tell.

Sounds like the Belkin you bought is a bum piece of engineering.

-hl718

 

Here is my opnion on this. Try adjusting the MTU and try the DMZ. Linksys Routers are absolute SHIT when it comes to WPA2, Frequent Disconnects for no reason on multiple wireless AP's so yea. I got a Belkin and it works just fine, actually faster than the stock Linksys/Actiontec that Fios gave me.

So idk. Mixed reviews, maybe I got the only 1 good belkin in the world.

-dog

 

Did you not read the thread?

 

Hmmm kinda have a similar problem with my belkin router.. 360 will only connect if pc is off? ..WTF! ..so in order to connect 360 to live i gotta switch pc off connect to live with 360, then switch pc on.. pisses me off somewhat :banghead:

 

how about assigning a static IP address? This seems to work for most DCHP issues, like say the one you mention with regard to the PC being off.

 

Do yourself a favor and get a new Netgear router.
Belkin is nothing but trouble.

 

it would be that easy. But it works so much better than my previous netgear with anything but the x360... i'll run some test with cable on and then choose which path to take.

BTW i tried granting static Ip and the x360 won't care at all... it get to internet and then gets a X on the live connection

 

LOL thats very easy, just tell them strange problems occur after a couple of hours it will reset itself/shutdown and not work without removing the powercable or something that they will be unable to test when you are in the shop to bring it back and demand a new one! a new one as in another brand router at around the same price as you lost confidence in belkin now

 

eh, even if i'm italian that doesn't mean that i like to resort to such means

i'm sadly too much of an honest guy i guess :/