NTFS woes

Discussion in 'Off Topic Discussion' started by Alchy, Apr 3, 2007.

  1. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
    Got a PC here with a slightly dodgy hard disk - some bad sectors were picked up, but fixed, and after numerous surface scans by various HDD utilities I'm pretty confident it's got no immediate problems on a low level. Unfortunately the NTFS table appears to have been screwed, the system hangs in the same place every time at boot. The file it hangs on was called "agp440.sys", so I booted up an NTFS-compatible DOS substitute and renamed it. It then hung on the file that was loaded before it at boot, "nv_agp.sys". Rename that one and it hangs on the file before... have a feeling it's hitting a corrupted file after these which it isn't displaying, and there's no way to know which as the files aren't loaded in alphabetical order. Basically it's screwed.

    How do I fix it? All of the most important data on the drive has been backed up, so anything goes, although I'd like to avoid going through a format and reinstall.
     
  2. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2005
    Messages:
    11,205
    Likes Received:
    23
    check the cable.

    I ve had similar troubles , and after trying EVERYTHING , the problem was the IDE cable. change it and give it a go.
     
  3. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
  4. z_killemall

    z_killemall Familiar Face

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    1,116
    Likes Received:
    6
    If it isn't the IDE cable you could try some programs. I strongly recommend HDD Regenerator, like it can physically repair some problems that any other programs can't. I really don't understand how it really does its job but I can say by my experience that I've used it on 2 HDDs and it worked great. Give it a try if you can.
     
  5. Evangelion-01

    Evangelion-01 Officer at Arms

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    3,114
    Likes Received:
    3
    Yeah those IDE cables are a bitch.
     
  6. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    6,578
    Likes Received:
    4
    Get the Windows OS disk. Boot up from it. Get into the repair console, where a command prompt shows up. type in chkdsk /r to scan the C: drive. See if that helps. If not, then do a repair installation from booting off the oS disk.
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2007
  7. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
    Yep, or possibly fixboot or fixmbr... trouble is, there's only one XP disc to hand, and it's a Dell recovery disc from a different PC, which is (ironically) useless for getting to the recovery console on a normal install of XP.

    Tomorrow I'm going to try to track down the missing copy of XP, give another HDD cable a go, and if all else fails I'll take it out and over someone else's to try some recovery software (I'd rather not do this as it's obviously pretty fragile). I've found plenty of software that claims to do NTFS recovery, but they all need to be run in Windows :rolleyes:

    Cheers with the input, all.
     
  8. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,394
    Likes Received:
    995
    halting on agp system files is an os corruption, run the windows install disc in rescue mode. You'll need to look up the commands to initiate repair.
     
  9. opethfan

    opethfan Dauntless Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2006
    Messages:
    753
    Likes Received:
    2
    Have you changed any hardware? Moving a HDD (and it's OS) to another system can cause issues like that. nv_agp.dll is an Nvidia AGP graphics driver, so maybe you've changed GFX cards?
     
  10. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    19,394
    Likes Received:
    995
    If it halts and hangs, it's an os issue. A dll corruption.

    I've dealt with it many times when I was a pc tech.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 3, 2007
  11. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,568
    Likes Received:
    4
    I'm with ASSEMbler here, but it may be just a case of your Graphics card drivers becoming shagged. It's not necessarily that your hard drive is broken or Windows is dead, just that the drivers may have become corrupted.

    If you can get into Safe Mode (hold down F8 before the Windows logo starts coming up, select Safe Mode from the menu that appears), then you need to do the following:

    1) Go to the Control Panel (Start>>Settings>>Control Panel))
    2) Go to System.
    3) Click the Hardware tab, and select the Device Manager button.
    4) Click on the + sign next to Display Adapters, and right click on your graphics card.
    5) Select 'Uninstall' from the menu, and when it warns you, click OK.
    6) Find the driver CD for your graphics card, and reinstall the drivers (note: depending on your drivers you may have to reboot back into regular Windows again - just cancel any drivers that try to install whilst you're rebooting).
    7) Reboot.

    Hopefully that should fix it. If it doesn't, you may have to call in help to get Windows back on it's feet. Good luck!
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2007
  12. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
    Nah, you're all barking up the wrong tree ;)

    Like I said, it was a fucked up NTFS partition. Finally got my hands on an XP CD this morning, and chkdsk /r did the trick eventually, so props to madhatter256 for spotting the right one. Now the wireless on the laptop I was using is acting up, so it's off to fix that... and this is supposed to be my holiday...

    Thanks for the input everyone, anyway.
     
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2007
  13. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2006
    Messages:
    1,568
    Likes Received:
    4
    Yes, Alchy, but you'd told us you'd repaired the disk already, so I dismissed chkdisk automatically. Sorry!
     
  14. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
    Ah no, I'd been stuck with only my trusty Ultimate Boot CD, which is full of very useful surface repair tools, none of which appear to touch NTFS in any meaningful manner. Apologies for not being clear.
     
  15. retro

    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2004
    Messages:
    10,354
    Likes Received:
    822
    Yup, I would've gone for (in this order):

    chkdsk
    HDD regenerator
    stick in in another machine and grab essential data
    repair install of windows

    HOWEVER.....

    Your assumption is incorrect. Bad sectors = IMPENDING HARD DRIVE DEATH. I would NEVER trust a hard drive with bad sectors. Yes they are repairable. Yes that drive WILL have problems again.
     
  16. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2004
    Messages:
    6,216
    Likes Received:
    19
    Nah, I said no immediate problems in my first post, obviously the drive is on its way out. A new one isn't quite on its way (few other things need to be rounded up first, and it's not my call, so the order's been delayed) but it's definitely the next step.

    Is HDD Regenerator bootable, then?
     
  17. Smithy

    Smithy Spirited Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2005
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    0
    this.
     
sonicdude10
Draft saved Draft deleted
Insert every image as a...
  1.  0%

Share This Page