NTSC Wii with RGB

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  1. Titan91

    Titan91 Member

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    I've read some mixed opinions on this. While many people say RGB SCART on an NTSC Wii isn't possible (you get a red screen), others say you can force the mode to PAL60 which will get you a 240p/480i 15kHz 60Hz signal from RGB. I realize the TV has to be compatible with PAL60, but is that applicable with RGB? My line of thinking is the actual RGB signals would be the same as NTSC, but the composite sync may be different. Are the sync pulses the same between PAL and NTSC? If not, I don't see why forcing PAL60 using a loader won't work?
     
  2. Lum

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    Maybe. I can't speak from experience whether the NTSC Wii video controller allows enabling RGB through software.

    Since NTSC or PAL color information isn't relevant to RGB, TVs are supposed to disregard it when extracting the sync from composite video. (Wii normally uses CVBS for syncing RGB).

    As for the sync pulses, I believe NTSC, PAL60, or PAL-M have mutually compatible monochrome video.
     
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  3. Titan91

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    I saw a video of a guy running his Wii on a PVM through RGB. The menu started out with the typical red tint and he loaded Neogamma I believe and either changed the console region or switched to PAL60, then the picture was fine in-game. I can't find that video again though. So now I just need to see if RGB can be turned on using the NTSC refresh rate?
     
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  4. Lum

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    Yes, but I am working under the blind assumption NTSC Wii even has the internal hardware components needed to generate RGB.
     
  5. Mord.Fustang

    Mord.Fustang My goodness, it's nipley out!

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    What's wrong with just using component with official/high quality cables?

    You'll get 480p that way.
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Wii hardware is the same across regions. Any differences are just software.
     
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    Yeah this seems to be correct, going to mess around with PAL60 in a few emulators. Thanks for the advice.
     
  8. Domspun

    Domspun Spirited Member

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    I wonder too. Image quality could be better?? If it is just software, I can still use my Component/HDMI adapter.
     
  9. Lum

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    PAL60 and NTSC definitely should be identical in emulators. Like RGB or component, they have no need for the old color encoding formats either.
     
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    "ntsc" and "pal60" over rgb should be identical. There is no ntsc or pal colour encoding via rgb, only the 60hz that most us Tvs require
     
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    All Wii are the same. The video encoder has its features changed by the region bit on the console.
    There's even a homebrew hack that changes that flag. It turns a true PAL console into a true NTSC one and vice versa.
     
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    Yes, this was mentioned above.

    Even the korean wiis can have their key changed/removed to convert them into normal wiis.
     
  13. Domspun

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    So, image is the same, just compatible with the TV/region you play on?
     
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