Official Scart cables?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Dot50Cal, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. ConsoleFun

    ConsoleFun Gutsy Member

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    Can you seen any other reason why there would be 4 caps? I would say that it pretty much confirms that it is a RGB cable :) I agree that the number of wires pretty much confirms it too...

    If anyone doesn't know, the purpose of the caps is to block any "direct current" that may flow from the console through the TV/capture-device's input to ground. This can cause things to get hot and may distort the picture as well. With consoles without caps inside, such as the US SNES and any region Dreamcast, caps are pretty much mandatory in the cable if you want to ensure that everything works correctly. Caps are expensive and that's why they spend money on 'em...
     
  2. ConsoleFun

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    Hey mate, that is not quite correct. It is not only a socket. SCART is a standard:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scart
    The SCART standard also defines the voltage level (Vpp) and impedance for the various signals. The socket is used by at least one other standard as well. I am thinking of the Japanese RGB cables that use the same connector, but have a different pinout and are not "SCART".
    As stated in this thread the SNES outputs RGB, but the US SNES and PAL SNES need different cables, due to fact that the PAL SNES have caps inside for the R, G, B and CVBS signals. However - I have never actually seen an official Nintendo RGB SCART cable for the SNES, only the Japanese one, but that's not SCART.
     
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  3. ConsoleFun

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    French? :) Do you know if it is an official RGB SCART/Péritel? I have not seen one yet for the SNES. If there is one place in Europe where they might have been released, it would be the SECAM country France I guess :)
     
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    Well, I dunno, I remember adding and later removing them from my Supergun RGB and it not making a bit of difference. Ah well.
     
  5. Dot50Cal

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  6. Mark30001

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    Yep, it's an official one that came with my unit in France.
     
  7. ConsoleFun

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    Very nice, an official SNES RGB SCART at last. At least I hope it is. Sorry that I ask again, but I must before I get too excited: Are you sure the three RGB pins in the SCART are in use, and that it is not only a cheap SCART with only composite video?

    Is there anything printed on it? Model number? I am both a collector and a RGB geek, so getting some information on this product confirmed would be awesome! Photos would be fantastic :)
     
  8. ConsoleFun

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    Hey mate, you are right that sometimes you can not see any noticeable difference.

    If the value of the capasitor is so high that the minimum video frequncy pass through (220uF is considered good enough by most), then you should see no difference, but the cap will protect as described. It is when they are too small that things start to get funny, and that can happen when you daisy-chain 'em by using a SCART cable with caps on i.e. a PAL SNES that already have caps inside :)

    (For those very interested: Caps linked in series are like resistors in parallel, the total value gets smaller. And smaller caps have higher impedance at a given frequency.... Higher impedance lower the amplitude of the signal...)
     
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  9. Mark30001

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    I know it looks like Dot50Cal's cable, and there are 9 spread out pins. The other end has the Nintendo logo on it. There's no serial number.

    I'll try pics later.
     
  10. Mark30001

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    Sorry for doublepost, browser wont allow me to complete my edit.

    There are some numbers and letters on the cable:
    AWM E43B68 2933 VW-1SC TACHI
     
  11. Xipe

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    Just see what wires are attached and compare it to this, and you should be able to determine if it is indeed an RGB cable.

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  12. Mark30001

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    Thanks.

    Sorry for the bad quality. I don't have access to the cables right now, but it kinda looks like it might be RGB.

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  13. Dot50Cal

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    Ok, I ended up reversing the adapter with the cunning use of a Female to Female Scart adapter, and a standard Scart cable. I now get audio! yay! Except the Saturn produced a Buzz sound..Could this be a grounding issue due to the lack of capacitors in the cable as seen above?
     
  14. Infrid

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    i remember a DIY VGA box that take RGB signal. this work is accomplished by some resistor and capacitors. however i don't like, the electrical values of RGB and VGA signal are too different. is better buy a good VGA box.
     
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