Old friends, new friends, bad friends...

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  1. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    Instead of working on art homework, I'm staying up to let off a bit of steam. This has bothered me for most of the night and I got into a pretty bad fight with one of my friends over it (likely because of the way I presented my thoughts to her).

    Everyone here has been used at one point or another, I'm sure of it. It's a fact of life and it happens. The best thing to do is cut your losses and move on, right?

    Every human on the planet has thoughts and feelings, whether or not you know or care about them. When a person attempts to exploit or take advantage of another, said person is infringing on an implied trust. When this person is someone who used to be your best friend, it makes matters much more complicated.

    It gets better when you realize others are following suite. This has little to with my example, though, and is just a side note.

    I'm a pretty mild-mannered person and I would rather avoid confrontation than provoke it. A series of events over the past few months has damaged my opinion of a certain person (we'll call him "Jason") beyond repair. Jason and I go pretty far back - we've been friends since the first grade. Lately, though, Jason has begun to think he is a much bigger person than he really is. He claims to know many people [who make fun of and use him, I'm sure] and he has become quite pretentious. He (for lack of a better term) took advantage of one of my somewhat naive friends and has made multiple attempts at using myself for whatever whim he desires. Examples include calling me up to smoke my pot, using my house (or where I used to live before I went to school) as his "chill spot" to hang out at when he didn't want to go home to his parents, and the latest example (today) is trying to "nudge nudge" his way into staying at my apartment so he can come to mountains and spend as little money as possible (and again, probably intending for me to "smoke him out" as well).

    He is not cool, he is not slick, he is not a "player." He is a fucking tool.

    Recently he stepped on extremely dangerous territory. The city he lives in is not exactly known for safety; I would know because I used to live there as well. He loosely invited a good friend of mine to "hang out" (i.e. get drunk) at his apartment. Said friend is a very attractive girl who just got her license. I have no idea why he would invite her up there, but if she did go for whatever reason she would be in far more danger than I would be. I'm a scrawny white guy that is pretty broke, and she looks like a model; she's not exactly starving for money, either.

    Simply put, if she goes up there and something happens to her, I would take much pleasure in driving a few hundred miles, ripping out his larynx, and feeding it to him.

    I gave a pretty long personal anecdote, so I suppose the tension-relief part of the thread is over.

    Not to sound pretentious, but I realize that I am a valuable person to know. I'm dependable to those I trust, I am up-front and lie to very few people, and I'm by no means dumb. He (among other people) has made the foul mistake of assuming that I don't understand what is going on, and I'm pretty tired of it.

    I'm sure there's more but I really should go to bed.

    Simply put; don't be a worthless piece of scum and attempt to use people. They may know it and if they do, they will take all the pleasure in the world of fucking you over at a later date.
     
  2. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    You are not responsible for your friends actions, he is! If he is suddenly changing into a 'dick' then become unavailable and he'll surely take the hint, no?

    As for inviting people anywhere, then that really is down to him and the said female, why are you even getting involved unless you are mildly jealous?

    Frustrating as it may be, sometimes you out grow people, places, jobs, girlfriends, wives... I could go on! You can't carry people forever and if he has suddenly turned into something you are not really wanting involved in, then move on. Don't let other people use you or put apon you. Being a decent human being in a World full of shitheads means you've got the burden of responsibility. Learn to avoid making the mistake of being used!

    Your mate has taught you a painful, but valuable lesson!

    Thus concludes Agony Uncle corner - phone (0845) LOADS OF MONEY for full advice! All major credit cards accepted. ;-)
     
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  3. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Sounds like an awful lot of drama. Ain't got time for that shit.

    Just do what I do: walk away.
     
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  4. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    Good advice from the both of you, but unfortunately not applicable. I failed to mention a pretty important point.

    When I said this guy and I were like best friends, I mean to the point where people would mistake one for the other and confuse our names. He's done nothing visibly wrong to anyone else; to them he's the same old guy. It would make me look like the jerk to simply walk away and never speak to him without some sort of explanation on my part.

    As far as inviting the girl to his apartment goes, it doesn't have anything to do with jealously (although he would love to think it is). I am much closer to her than he is, and I highly doubt she would do anything with him. It's none of my business what she does with someone else, as that time has come and gone for me (she's my ex). I'm at a college with God only knows how many girls and the last thing I'm worried about is getting with one who is hours away; one I've already been with, on top of that. What it comes down to is that I care about her a lot because she's a close friend of mine, and the fact that is essentially inviting her to get robbed is what pisses me off.

    He has a girlfriend, anyway. It gets better; he would not even know her if it wasn't for me. She wanted me to begin with, but through a series of events I realized it wasn't the best course of action to date her. I'm pretty sure most of his girlfriends are initially attracted to me and wind up settling for him.

    It's a non-issue, though, because I don't think she has any interest in going. If, for whatever reason, she did go to this town then it would not be to go over to his place.

    I'm pretty sure I have it covered. I was just in a terrible mood last night and wanted to let off steam. Thanks guys.

    -"Damn, it feels good to be a gangsta."
     
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  5. Unorthodox

    Unorthodox Barc0de's Pimp

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    I had a very similar issue with my best friend a few years ago and I understand how hard it is having a best friend you share everything with and them turning into a complete prick.

    I told him straight to his face what I thought and the arguement wasn't all too much fun. The result in the end was me cutting all ties and moving on. Of course you'll always get the followers that believe everything the said tool says, but if they're stupid enough to hang around with him are they really any better? I wouldn't be suprised if he tries to spread some rumors about you (if he hasn't already).

    My advice is cut all ties and move away from he and his group as much as you can. Think of it all as a learning experience and prove you're a better person by not being around him. If others want to be his friend let them be the fools as you can't talk them out of it.
     
  6. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    that girl have a driving licence? then shes should be smart enough to see for her safety. let those 2 be. eventually !jason" will be back to the world or in case he doesn't it's all good for you not to see him again.

    i mean unless you're interested/friend with the girl. in that case have a talk with her, and if she still wishes to go.... bad for her.
     
  7. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    You mean there are certain parts of America that if you visit them you are guaranteed to be robbed? How does anyone live there? Can you actually find anything worth stealing as it's already been stolen or is there just a massive big hole in the ground with a sign saying 'Once there was a town here, but we all stole from one another until we decided to move somewhere else!'

    Stand in the main railway station in Rome for 2 seconds with a big ass tourist smile and you'll have everything you own removed by some bastard on a Vespa the second you hit the street! It's everywhere, no matter where you go!

    She has her own life and I understand not wanting things to happen to people, but she's not your responsibility.

    This truly IS a drama - you need to put your efforts into something wholly more constructive such as no longer wasting your time worrying about what others think, do, say, how they react or what the hell it all matters if it's no longer you g/friend or mate!

    One of my work colleagues makes me laugh whenever someone tried to chat her up and she doesn't like it. She is pretty brazen and just says 'Excuse me, but move-on-dot-com!' That droops their pecker I can tell you and makes me chuckle for some odd reason.
     
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  8. drx

    drx BLAST PROCESSING. SITE SUPPORTER 2015

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    Yeah, same. Don't get attached to things.

    It's very rare to find a true friend, if not impossible.
     
  9. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    This is were it all comes down to :thumbsup:
     
  10. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    @Parris
    I know she's not my responsibility and I highly doubt she will go in the first place. It's not my job to look after her and I'm not really into the whole babysitting business. If for some reason she did go and something happened to her, though, I would hold him responsible.

    The crime in that city is one reason on a laundry list of why I changed universities. Wondering if you're going to get robbed at your front door step is ridiculous.

    It really comes down to a bunch of "ifs and buts" so again, the girl part of it is not that big of a deal. I just can't stand my jackass "friend." Maybe I'm just looking for an excuse to maim him?

    Yes, life revolves around drugs. Actually I think you're missing the point.

    I figured putting that in would be a mistake since it's practically guaranteed someone would jump on the fact that drugs are remotely associated with the situation.
     
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  11. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    Actually I was just joking around to cheer it up a bit, sorry didn't mean it like that.. didn't you notice where I'm from? ;-)
     
  12. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    My apologies, I've been in a very bad mood as of late. Thanks for trying, though.

    I like your title, too.
     
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  13. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    have beer guys, it's better and healtier, and drinking a couple before bed helps sleeping more peacefully :)
     
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    thamasha69 Peppy Member

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    Yes indeed it does....vodka works pretty well too ;)
     
  15. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    :p

     
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  16. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    I probably almost had a stroke getting pissed at some inbred redneck girl on the road yesterday. I went back, smoked a few cigarettes, drank a beer, and all of a sudden I feel much better.

    I was working on hard liquor before that, but I ran out of whiskey and I'm not taking shots of tequila.

    I'm back to normal though and can resume girl-hunting ;)
     
  17. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Just do what the figure of the father of Nicholas Cage tells to him in "The Weather man" : you have to throw something away in this life and move on.

    There you go - easier said than done ;)
     
  18. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    No worries mate we all have those! and I could of rephrased it better also :nod:

    @Barcode nice quote :thumbsup:
     
  19. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    =) thnx port, btw, I love Amsterdam, although i ve only been there for 8 hours, no money to stay anywhere:(
     
  20. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    translate this for me please i think i got the gist of it but better asking T_T
     
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