pal pc engine? UPDATED I have the clone with me:its ntsc!

Yes, one of the best clones I have ever seen... but I don't really like clones :smt023

 

Sorry for go off topic.
Que alegría me da leer a alguien en español por aquí.
Saludos desde España a los dos amigos argentinos.

 

Guess It doesn't really matter if you go off topic if we can't understand what you say. If you didn't say you were going of topic I would have never known :smt023

 

1. It's a clone, it's obviously a clone, I'm surprised anyone doubts this.

2. It's almost certainly PAL, most clones are, and all the PCE ones I've seen are - including my two white shuttle clones, shown above. BTW, they play both carts (shown) and HuCards (not shown). You can read more about them here.

3. The PAL TurboGrafx-16 was officially released in Spain (And intended for other countries, I assume, as IIRC the manual's in different languages). It was a charcoal grey, instead of the US machine's black. It played US cards and had as a pack-in Blazing Lazers, even though the box is adorned with R-Type graphics. You can read more about this unit here along with the only other PCE official clone, the Korean Vistar.

4. There was never an officially released PAL (or SECAM) PC Engine, the reason no one ever remembers seeing it for sale is because it doesn't exist. A French company - Sodipeng - imported huge numbers of PC Engines and converted them themselves. They were not official NEC gear. Some scans can be found on this page. Look under 'scans'. This PCE History page (French) details how Sodipeng (which is a french acronym for SOciété D'Importation de la PC ENGine) imported the machines and sold it to other retailers, with translated instructions made with a typewriter. A French seller you may have heard of, Adol, was frequently drawing fire for selling as 'new' these games with French instructions slipped inside.

5. There were several variations of this CoreGrafx-alike clone, all in the dark-grey with blue lettering. GameLab magazine shows a few of them in an old (old) issue.

6. This is the worst misspelling for TurboGrafx I've ever seen: turbohraphics


All this stuff is available on the web, I'm kinda surprised you guys don't google for it before babbling on. =)

 

You can still get a brand new PAL unit at lik-sang for 60 euro's

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=181&products_id=2135&

 

Wow, I haven't seen you around here in a while.

Anyway, If you look at all my posts, you will see that I was saying this was a clone the whole time, and yea turbohraphics is the worst spelling of TurboGrafx :smt043

 

excuse me but babbling gets us to the truth. Alot of what you've said I've read on the net. But what you say about there not being a PAL issue of the system contradicts with what I quoted someone as saying (that pal system was made in limmited numbers for the asian market) - also pulled from the net. And this is nothing to do with this system right here.
We've established the thing is a fake - doubt only arose from what I was told by the seller. Even if it is a fake - the way its built makes it interesting (CD rom compatibility - something the pirate shuttles don't have).

After everything you've stated, its not the end all say all in this situation - the system is pal and ntsc (well that's what it apparently sais on the box) - the games he's selling with it are the 'KING' cards (the back written in japanese and english). was there a pirate japanese market for items such as these? There are massive grey areas in these discussions, you can't just glaze over them by saying find it on the net.

now I don't know where this guy got his info from - and this is unrelated to this whole debacle - but he clearly says that NEC tried selling unofficially made PAL coregrafx units through distributors in asia. So what's to be made of this? Sorry if I'm going on a bit.

edit: great scans you provided there!!! look at this rare thing:


so do you know where and if I can get those particular magazines that showed the coregrafx clones?

 

I'd love to pick up some of these clones. Where is the best place to find them?

 

Actually I saw one of these PC-KD836G for sale on YJ:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f23623025[/url]

 

Its been 3 months listed, no one seem to be interested in that system, few months ago he asks 150,000 yens now down to 59,800 and hes now willing to ship internationally :-D

 

That system looks awsome, to bad hsipping to holland would be 5 times the selling price :smt082

 

How much would it be to the UK, roughly? And how easy is it to buy such a thing from Yahoo JP?

 

not cheap ata all, but I guess its rare? It looks nicer in the advertisment

 

Always wanted one of those.

 

update: ok so I got hold of the system in question a few weeks ago, and I'm soon to be sending it and the pirate games it came with the system (pirate games you say? check this french site out for more info: http://sdicks.free.fr/Potins/PCBoy/PCBoy.htm ) out as soon as I can. I HAVE NO DIGITAL CAMERA AT THE MOMENT SO NO PICTURES PROVIDED.

anyway I digress.

Today I was able to do a couple of things - I can confirm that it is 100% ntsc. It has an RF output - it was made for a market that sustains ntsc. Remeber that this system was bought in Japan


I can also confirm (as if it wasn't obvious) that its not NEC original - I opened it up and non of the chips had Hudson written on them nor the bee logo - socked chips maybe? I'm not too familiar with all this electronics stuff, but I noted down the numbers/letters to all the chips and stuff inside - I don't know if providing such info would be interesting or telling - but I have it if anyone wants to hear).

As was previously stated the exit bus is present and on the inside of the system the pins slotted into a rectangular 'grid' (a pin per box within that grid) which itself was connected to a smaller board attatched to the upper shell of the PC-2100. Is this like the a normal coregrafx is constructed? - the grid on one of the edges has 'Japan' written on it.

The main board sais BIT 80 on one of the sides. I don't know how relevant this info is - anyone familiar with stuff like this? like what to make of what's written on the rf box:
PHAM0005
MDEIAFO3A
FD9124AM62
or one of the main chips (the ones that may be socketed):
215
9117

then there's a smaller rectagular chip:
SONY 9E01
CXK5864M- ISL JAPAN (edit: this is related to the image?)

there's a couple of letters written by hand in with some sort of marker (looks like chalk though) - don't know if its japanese or western though - one of them looks like an 'E' but resembles hirigana/katakana (could be horribly wrong though)

I have no clue - is it possible to decipher this stuff? just wondering how this was put together is all.

The system is very sturdy, good quality product, and the same size as the real coregrafx. It is a true clone as it tries to look like the real thing.

I hope I haven't just bored any of you to death, but its not everyday you come across such a strange clone for a system no known for clones.

edit: there are 2 small rectangular chips - both sya the same thing:
NEC JAPAN
D43256AGU-12L
9038A9030
acording to this site they are related to the system's memory (these chips can hold as much as 320k of memory?): http://www.arrakis.es/~espartero/Circuitos/d.htm

 

Yeah cmon guys,why the confusion...we know pc engine clones form the real thing!! :smt023

Nec did dabble a bit with Pal consoles in Spain but that is as far as it goes Europe wise.The french versions were never official,just done by a large distributor.Clever move by the distributor but,very clever.

I think Nec missed out with the Pc engine,had it been released worldwide shortly after the jap launch,the NEs would have had some stiff competition in it's final years and the Megadrive would have found it alot harder to get the foothold it did with Megadrive.

 

this was the first time I had played a nec system (or a clone of one), and I'm amazed how good the games are - arcade style games work better on this system than they do on the megadrive I dare say.

 

Yeah you are completely right Devilreed mate,it does seem to do arcade ports far better than the Megadrive.The shooters especially are amazing on the machine.If you really get into Engine collecting, get yourself a Supergrafx, the version of Daimakaimura on that machine is better than the Md version imo.

Also the arcade cd rom card produced some stunning games for the engine,utterly defying the doubters who said certain things just couldn't be done on the engine.

It's such a shame it only enjoyed success in Asia, as it was a superb console.

 

There a PC BOY for sale at http://www.mercadolivre.com.br/jm/item?site=MLB&id=21165943 (It's a brazzilian site, in portuguese) it's says it's compatible with HU cards. Is this a special clone because it compatible with hucards?