Peter Moore is Having a Good Day "PlayStation 3 is Dreamcast"

The ps3 will be severly outdated in 5-6 years (just like any other console), let alone 10. Sony has been too optimistic and they ll pay for their lack of vision.

 

I think he meant the PS3 is the next CD-I/3DO.

 

I meant it in a business sense. Sony makes more money from PS2 now, seven years after release, than it ever has. By "over-speccing" the PS3 now, they make opportunities to enhance their profit later, whilst delaying costs associated with PS4. It's a risky idea, but time will tell if it's the right move...

Dave.

 

I agree.
The DC is still a great console imo. The marketing was what killed it.

 

20% new data, 80% corporate PR crap, thats what is all about...

The PS3 a DC? give me a break... the X360 is still the DC since both had a great start and an amazing first year (remember 2006? that was like 2000 for the DC) and both PS2 and PS3 had an overhyped launch and almost no launch games to boot, which for me is more than a coincidence.

Plus the X360 has still to bring some money into MS pockets, specially since the Xbox was like a mixture between Saturn and N64, cuz it ended as a distant second (N64) and overall costed a lot more than what it got from profits (Saturn).

The X360 is the DC, lets just hope the PS3 is the GC and not the PS2...

PS: sorry for the size, I couldnt find a smaller one...

 

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When you taunt everyone else w/ taglines like, "next gen starts when we say it does", stick an obscene price tag on there and say it's cheap, all the other bullshit Sony has tried to pull, and then it winds up easier to sell a glass of diarrhea than your system... then the road to failure is starting to become apparent. It's been a LOOOONG time since a system has had a lame launch across the board and made a comeback.

 

also, i wouldnt compare the PS3 to the PS2's performance, although both started off slow. Ps3 has remained slow.

 

I'm not saying that, but that I hope it wont turn into something like the PS2...

 

it wont, the price wont allow it any time soon.

But thats OK for sony, they re still profiting largely on their PS2 units and software.

 

PS2 started off slow? playstation.jp crashed at midnight when they started preorders some months before launch. They presold 995,000 units.... the only ones that weren't presold of the first million were those alloted to a handful of shops across the country that refused to.

I wasn't living in the states for the US launch but I recall similar mayhem.

 

About 7 years? The PS2 had a terrible initial launch in terms of software support. It took a year or so before things started to pick up (hello GTA). You can analyse data in a number of ways to suit your cause, but it doesn't really mean a great deal until it becomes a trend over a decent amount of time. For instance,

Sony shipped 10million PS2s in the first year: http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html

Sony shipped 4.3 million PSs in the first year: http://www.playstation.com/business.html

Current shipped PS3s are at 5 million in 7 months. Their target is 10million in 12 months.

Shipped are not sales of course, and we are told the PS3 is bombing at retail. But Magicbox reports that:

"Sony announced that they have sold 1 million units of PlayStation 3 in Europe and PAL region in 9.5 weeks, and PS3 reached 1 million faster than PS1 and PS2."

This is despite the huge price and lack of decent software. So go figure.

The sales figures of the PS3 in Japan are pretty healthy too. Nothing compared to the Wii or DS Lite, of course, but around 500,000 a month. The XB360 is still hovering around 100k a month. By the end of the year things will be pretty even between the XB360 and the PS3 globally, if that trend is continued.

What this means in the long run who can say? The Wii and DS lite are selling in massive numbers (3.5million DS's last month, 1.6million Wiis in Japan alone!)

 

I don't think marketing was anywhere near the console killer that some think it was since they did great out of the starting gate. If any three things killed the Dreamcast it was...

1. Lack of 3rd party flagship titles
2. Lack of DVD
3. PS2 hype

Piracy also played a significant factor.

 

I won't talk about quality of games or game sales (I thought the PS2 JPN lineup sucked ass) but to say the system had a bad start is simply not true. Again, I don't know about the US/UK numbers, but the Japanese system sold like fucking wildfire. Took months to get one. You cannot compare the Japanese PS3 launch to the Japanese PS2 launch. The PS2 literally sold 10x the volume at launch in this region.

Of course, the main selling point was the DVD player, which at the time, was somewhat expensive in console format. They were no doubt hoping Blue Ray would do the same for them w/ the PS3, which is arguably what has bit them in the ass.

EDIT: These figures also don't talk about availability of units. There was a few months in Japan where you couldn't get a PS2 unit. Same in the US? Not sure. I would assume so since I recall them getting $800 & $900 on Ebay. Seems there is no problem whatsoever to get a PS3 in any region.

 

The wii is STILL hard to get , and I m still left without an NTSC/US unit, despite desiring and having coughed up money to a friend since December

 

PR is PR. Every company says tons of BS to make them self seem better then the other company. Hell I remember a few E3 back nintendo made it seem like the gamecube was vastly out performing the ps2 because of the way they did their numbers trying to treat the GBA like it was a home console and not a seperate handheld.

Nintendo also a few E3 back made alot of punches at the PSP.

Microsoft as well has sprouted alot of BS as well at nintendo and sony.

Again none of them are saints, they've all said some serious bull***t over the years.

 

Took the PS3 7 weeks to outsell what the Xbox 360 has sold in Japan in the last er year and a half.

I read somewhere that initial research on the PS2 sales in Japan showed that 7 out of 10 machines were bought as it was the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time... still apart from RR5 the games on the PS2 in the first few months were crap to say the least...

 

Indeed. I didn't buy one until well into year 2.

 

Dude why dont you use your pimpin powers to score one unit from a desperate fat/ugly girl?:lol:

 

because my cock doesnt reach the american shores to score an NTSC/US unit, that's why. Would you be a darling and do it for me?

 

No way dude, you dont even imagine what I had to do to get one...

I had to listen a girl with the IQ of a baked potato talk about her chihuahua for an hour, I cant do that again!:crying: