PHP Chat room going in, need some advice.

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I've narrowed my choice to BLAB! chat or PHP open chat.

    The main reason for their selection being price, as Flash Chat
    costs and arm and a leg and has spotty Vbulletin support.

    Blab! will integrate into VBulletin, PHPopen will not. However PHP open is free,
    and it claims to have minimal system load, while BLAB! seems to give no
    idea of system load (a poor program can tax the server).

    So I figured I'd ask the users here, as some people do use php, or could suggest an alternative script.

    -K
     
  2. HXC

    HXC Guest

    PHP chat rooms ALWAYS hurt the servers reasources, as they work via constantly refreshing.

    I reccomend an IRC channel, with a vB intergrated java client, works wonders!

    If you need an IRC server with no legal limits, I can bring mine back up at irc.kawanda.net by just emailing my server admin!
     
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  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    IRC is forbidden in my TOS, however I will go over it again, but don't expect much.
     
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  4. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Then host it somewhere else, like I gave the example of my server :)
     
  5. the_steadster

    the_steadster Site Soldier

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    I'd go with the free software initially. If its a steaming turd, then you've lost nothing and can replace with a non-free solution, and if its good then you've saved some cash!
     
  6. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Let me explain.

    Use an external IRC server, maybe even one of the big ones, like DALNet (or my smaller one, where you could have complete control, plus a more powerful IRC system) with a java client, which is a simple java application that will put no strain on the server apart from the 300 or so KB the first time a user visits. A java application is NOT an irc server, just a client.
     
  7. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Do you want to integrate it within the forums or thru some other part of the website? If the free one constantly refreshes and eats up server resources, then that eats up bandwith and drives up server cost, but if BLAB has minimal system load and doesn't take up a lot of resources, then that might be the better option. However, look into IRC, like HXC was saying.
     
  8. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Any PHP client will have to refersh, unless they used some incrediably advanced form of AJAX, which is unlikely...

    A java IRC client on the other hand is downloaded once, and then it can be used again and again and again, with no refershing.
     
  9. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    As long as the connection set up by it is purely on the client side, I have no problem.

    But no connection through the server can be made in any way.
     
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  10. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Indeed it is through client side. If you like I will tell my server admin to restart the IRCd with you as a global operator as well as me and you can set up the channel.

    Or would you rather use one of the larger servers such as DALNet or something.
     
  11. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I'm still banned on dalnet. Use EFnet.
     
  12. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Arrrg, We could use that..but I would personally prefer to find a server that uses UnrealIRCd, its much more powerful and helpful to the users, plus it supports +qaohv instead of just +ohv

    Aha! I found one: http://deltaanime.net/ has a free server that supports qaohv, I would use that if I were you
     
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  13. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I'll just ask my buddy to change my info for optonline. I just hope I don't lose node priority..
     
  14. Sally

    Sally Guest

    you know you're playing with fire, right?
     
  15. HXC

    HXC Guest

    deltaanime is the best server I have found, with full UnrealIRCd support, we should use that, not DALNet or EFnet. Also my server is back up now, also supporting UnrealIRCd
     
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  16. Mark30001

    Mark30001 Guest

    I'm completely clueless about the whole new chat room for here, but what's wrong with the current IRC chat room?
     
  17. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    For some reason people view using irc as if it were in greek.
     
  18. HXC

    HXC Guest

    Hoollld on, we already have an IRC room? why have I never seen anything about it! I love chatting :p
     
  19. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    because this is assemblergames.com we dont exactly put flags up or ads in newspapers ;-)
     
  20. mairsil

    mairsil Officer at Arms

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    Has IRC stablized itself yet? When I was op'ing on #mtg a few years ago, we would get a couple of net splits every hour.
     
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