"play it safe" (or where video games seems to go)

Everyone makes this market dullness and lack of innovation "problem" SO much bigger than it actually is (if there is a problem to begin with). Even with all these rehashes, sequels, and un-innovative games being released, for some reason I'm still having trouble 1. buying all the games I want because there are so many and 2. finding the time to finish the games I have now, because I've got so many.

People always point Katamari Demacy like it's some kind of Holy Grail, shining in the darkness of shitty games. Sure, it's original, but it's also boring. Sorry, but I wasn't much of a fan of the game, I just didn't think it was all that great.

 

Alien : I never said it was jesus christ to gaming at all now did I? I never said it was good as well did I?

I used it as an example, if you wish to have a better one here you go, Ratchet and Clank, fun Spyro spin off where you have to maneuver around large worlds, and solve puzzles and what not. It was fun, it has some humor tied in as well, ala now we have RATCHET AND CLANK NUKE THE WORLD. he runs around and blows everyting on the screen up, not as fun anymore.

 

Because Nintendo *never* flog dead horses.

(Mario Strikers, Golf, Tennis, Baseball, Paper, DDR, and Party notwithstanding)

I'm as big a fan of (most of) the above games as anyone, but holding Nintendo up as the sole bastion of originality seems pretty far fetched.

 

You didn't get my name right. Alien Workshop or AWS.

I never said you did. You mentioned Katamari Demacy in your post, and I was just using that game as an example to further back up my point that sometimes originality does not always equal good.

You (like cahaz) put too much focus on the wrong thing in my post. You're just focusing on a small part, without taking the rest into consideration. The point I made, am making, and will continue to make is that innovation and originality don't necessarily make good games, and that as long as sequels, remakes, and current formulas still make for great games, then there's nothing wrong. Who cares how many sequels a games has if they are all good? Who cares if there were a thousand FPS games before Halo, it's still a good game. People place too much emphasis on "oh, it's just a sequel" or "oh, games like this have already been done" or "Oh, it's only a remake of an old game". If it's fun, then who gives a damn? I don't.

 

Innovation is nice and everything, but I also like simpler games. Innovations can sometimes be extremely annoying, too. In KH Chain of Memories, you need CARDS to attack. If you run out of cards, you are fucked. Innovation can be a cool thing, too. I just started playing Shadow of The Colossus, and I was simply amazed with how cool and innovative it was. I also like it, since its not too complicated and confusing. "Innovating" a game by making it annoying like the change in FF7s materia system to FF8s magic equiping system sucked ass. Various other games innovated themselves to annoyances, too.

I just like games the way AWS said. RPGs with good story and characters, FPSs where you shoot stuff (I give leeway for RPG elements in those sometimes), and many others. I dont necessarily like innovations if they are just annoying.

 

I understand your what your name is Alien,

Now Alien not every game that is diffrent doesnt make it good, I have alot of respect games that try to be diffrent and try to march to the beat of there own pace, but ofcourse it doesnt make good.
The problem I see Alien and alot of other people see is, no one is trying to be diffrent anymore.
Is Halo good? personaly no, good as for what a console did for a FPS, ya I will give it that. If they release a log with a Halo sticker on it will it sell? I guess, Halo 2 sold something like 10 million copys first day if im not mistaken?
See Alien, Where im coming from is just the same recycled game over and over and over, take Final Fantasy, beating a dead horse ten times over, they have changed things with in the game to try to keep it fresh, fighting system for one. while alot of people do like it, personaly I dont mind it, not to crazy about it, but can live with it. Im just getting tired of the game.
There are far to many sequels coming out, rather then something new.

 

Final Fantasy is an interesting choice since each game typically features totally different storylines and characters. RPG's revolve around the plot, and FF has managed to avoid the problem of sequels by creating new characters and plots each time. I don't really see how you could criticise it as a series when each game is independant of the others.

 

People are making out that for every sequel that gets released, a new-and-unique original gets canned.

I don't think much has changed in terms of new and unique games, they still exist at probably the same rate they did 5 years ago. The big difference is that there is a lot more crap being released too.

All of a sudden there is a lot more money to be made selling videogames to the mainstream. Why fill your shelves with games that your average Joe-six-pack wont of heard of? Why not guarantee a sale by putting up a title that will grab his attention, like some crap AFL or Halo 2 rehash?


Videogames are really starting to become big business, while we've all enjoyed them for tens of years, many people are just starting to take them a bit more seriously than just toys for kids.

In Australia the Xbox is just so incredibly popular with older gamers but they've never heard of a dreamcast or 3DO. Why? Because they didn't have huge libraries of crap (well the 3DO did, but that was a different type of crap)

Thats my 2c anyway

 

I disagree. Crappy games have comprised 90% of all released games from the beginning. The majority of SNES/Megadrive games are junk; and on a percentage basis, the NES is probably worse, despite Nintendo's gold seal rating methods.

What's different is the motivation (not to mention level of funding) behind the games released today, and you're right about that: most games released recently have a clear mass target audience in mind (the word "chav" springs to mind) and aren't being subtle about it.

 

Well, I don't understand what your problem is, Fag

The way I see it, Final Fantasy has gone down hill since seven, Fag. Eight was horrible, ten sucked ass, eleven was a joke, and twelve is going to suck too. The only good FF after seven was nine, Fag. Halo was a good game, and it's QUITE apparent that I'm not the only one that thinks this way, Fag. If you're getting tired of current games and their "endless sequels" and "unoriginality", then stop playing or stop complaining. It's that easy, Fag.

Do you understand now, dumbass Fag.

You're fighting a losing battle, and you're too stupid to realize it. If you're reading comprehension skills were above that of a five year old, then maybe you wouldn't have gotten yourself into this situation.

 

Well Alien, thank you so much for you and only you Alien could bring so much light into my situation, and also adressing issuses I never knew I had Alien.
But I shall leave you with this Alien



There was no need for a post like that at all Alien,

Good day Sir

 

There is also no need to post the oldest picture on the net. God, how many times have we seen THAT picture, before? :banghead:

 

An overused picture, very clever

 

I think your sig crossed the line Alien. :fresh:

 

I don't, DeadqueeR :clap:

 

I think I speak for everyone when I say you are acting pretty childish.

 

Ok, come on Alien this isnt the G4 forum or gamefaq forums, want to act like a kid KEEP IT THERE.
Like I said there is no need for this type of garbage here, want to flame war people keep it in other forums.

 

Friggin gay noobs think they know everything about the ASSEMbler forums :lol:

 

well this thread is certainly going places!

 

I'm pretty disappointed by your sig, and also by that comment. In my experience this forum has a good signal to noise ratio; you're doing a good job of removing it.