Hi guys, As I've brought up in this thread, http://www.assemblergames.com/forum...console-SCPH-3900X-Power-Supply-Multi-Voltage, I've never seen a PlayStation 2 console from the Sony Mizunami plant. But then again, I never really bothered with the export sets. I don't suppose that there was ever a list of plants (on the Internet) that produced our PlayStation 2 consoles, so I'll start one here. According to the Sony documentation, there were two groups of consoles (which also resulted in slightly different specifications in various parts): domestic (Within Japan only) and export sets (For everywhere else, other than Japan). For the uninitiated, a Japanese console has 00 as the last two digits of its model number. For example, SCPH-10000, SCPH-30000, SCPH-39000 and SCPH-77000 are Japanese consoles, while SCPH-77001 is a USA set. From what I know, there were at least 5 Japanese plants that made the Japanese sets (which I arranged in an increasing order of rarity): SONY KISARAZU (SKZ) SONY MINOKAMO SONY EMCS. PSX units and some expansion-bay sets came from EMCS. SONY KOHDA (SKD). Our network adaptors also came from SKD. SOLECTRON. The only non-Sony plant, which produced some SCPH-18000 units. KISARAZU and MINOKAMO sets were probably the most common ones, while KOHDA and SOLECTRON units are fairly rare. For export sets, there were at least: FOXCONN (FXN/FOXC), China. Our network adaptors also came from Foxconn. MANTEK, China I'm quite sure that should be much more plants than these, in order to have churned out 140 million sets over the past decade. So, how can one determine the plant which manufactured a unit? For some units (mainly Japanese ones), the factory name is conveniently stamped on its back. For some others, it's usually written at a corner of the label, sometimes as an abbreviation. Here are four examples: http://www.wtkasa.com/psx/images/v9v10.jpg http://www.tolof.ovh.org/ps2version/50001-3d.jpg http://www.assemblergames.com/forum...hing-Part-VIII&p=729270&viewfull=1#post729270 For the SCPH-50004A, it has "FOXC" written below the compliance logos. For the SCPH-50004, it has "FOXC" written at the extreme lower right-hand corner of the label. For the SCPH-50001, it has "MANTEK" written below its date code. For the SCPH-10000, it has "S KISARAZU" written in a box. It's also a launch unit, since its serial number starts with J04/J05. The re-release starts with J22. On a side note, this also applies to accessories like the network adaptors. Although I don't think that they were ever made in plants other than FOXCONN and S KOHDA. Please feel free to contribute and add on!
Contributing My 30004 R states "Made in Japan" and has the plant named as MKM (MINOKAMO?) Full sticker: Clearer plant part: My network adapter 10350 states its from japan and is from SKD: My 77004 states its from chinas FOXCONN: And last but not least my 70004 says its from china and its plant is abbreviated as SZMT: Anything here thats rare, unusual or helpful?
Scans of my stuff... DTL-H50002 + DTL-H30102 + DTL-H30002 + DTL-H30002 S DESR-7000 SCPH-30004 + SCPH-30004 + SCPH-39004 + SCPH-50004 SCPH-50004 (Satin Silver) + SCPH-39004 SCPH-50004 a (mobo was a GH-026, BIOS B20103, DVD Player v3.02E, dead sadly) SCPH-70004 a SCPH-77004 b (Date Code 7C) Four SCPH-10350 (Network Adaptors for the Expansion Bay, broadband only) DTL-H20400 (External HDD for the PCMCIA interface, Development Tool labeled) Two SCPH-70100 (AC Adaptors for the slimline PS2s)
Thanks everyone! I've seen photographs of one Japanese set that has "S EMCS" printed on its back, but "SKD" written at the corner of the sticker. @@ So perhaps the code in the corner of the sticker isn't the plant that made the whole console. There's still no sign of a set from the Sony Mizunami plant, yet. @krHACKen: wow, so most of the debugstations came from SKD eh? The stickers of some of your consoles were cut off in your scans, but I'm sure that they're all the same, aren't they? (as in, your consoles that were made in China had "FOXC" and those from Japan had "SKD") I didn't see any indication of the plant that made my TOOL. :/
My DTL-H30002 and DTL-H30002 S don't have a factory acronym written after "3-065-16#-01" (in the bottom-right corner). My retail SCPH-30004 don't have one either. The thing I find intriguing is the serial number of my DTL-H50002, which is "0000123"... Why such a low SN ? Did the crab reset the SN to zero before the DTL-H 50K production ? PS2ident reports the same SN after reading the NVRAM, so the sticker is correct.
Sorry for the late replies. I was busy around that time, and then forgotten about this thread altogether. Anyway, I just noticed that it probably represents something else. I think that around that time when I wrote the first post and you replied, I saw some Japanese units with two markings (e.g. S KISARAZU, but with MKM on them). But they don't match. I cannot find those photographs again. =_= Or maybe it was a hunch that I had from back then, since it seemed like "FOXC" was way too common. I think that SONY might have another way to determine the plant/batch number, since the serial number jumps around between console series. Even between batches of consoles. D: I don't know if they've changed their semantics for their serial numbers, but the numbers for the SCPH-10000 and SCPH-15000 seem to have a pattern. The leading 2 digits seem to be a batch number. Stuff that I've seen: 04XXXXX <- Lowest serial number range for the SCPH-10000? 05XXXXX (My S KISARAZU SCPH-10000 was 0500044) 08XXXXX 1XXXXXX 22XXXXX <- SCPH-10000 v1.01 31XXXXX <- SCPH-15000 Maybe because they were made for Asian (HK/SG, Korea and Taiwan regions) game developers?
out of sheer curiocity, i took a peek at my DTL's and here's what i got: My DTL-H10000 240V NTSC-J PCMCIA TEST (this is a 240v model despite being a japanese unit) then there's my DTL-T10000 (PAL?) TOOL which is sorta broken note that this unit's markings are on the warning sticker instead of on the serial sticker (both stickers pictured) serial sticker: Warning sticker: and last my DTL-T10000HJ NTSC-J TOOL this unit has no visible manufacturer markings on the serial sticker, just like on my other TOOL, and this one does not have the Warning sticker, so it's kinda unknown. fullsized pictures can be found from my flicker: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tehmugi/sets/72157635948219064/
I suppose it could be an asian unit, though as far as i know, it origins from namco japan, so I'm not sure. I know thre's an unfinished build of xenosaga on the drive though it could also be one of those early machines assigned to a non-japanese developer. if the story stands correct, there were a number of such units made on the very early life of ps2 when the NTSC-US/PAL units were "not ready" or whatever, and basically every unit was a japanese one. such machines were assigned to overseas developers to work with for the very early titles of the console. As for the TOOL, im aware of their multi regional properties, I'm assuming this is a PAL unit (or one assigned to europe) since the warning sticker is written in nordic languages, including Finnish. I also bought this from an european seller (netherlands iirc) and unlike my other TOOL, it actually says NTSC | PAL on the sticker either way, as seen on the pics, the TOOL is marked as: SKZ KIZARAZU there doesnt appear to be any similar markings on the normal stickers of the debug/tool units though
How do you know that it came from Namco Japan? I'm curious. Japan doesn't use 220-240V, so I find it odd if Namco Japan used it. What was its product code? My TOOL had a debug version of Dokapon The World on it, dated slightly before the release date. Fair enough. Plus the manufacture date seems to be already in-line with the european release date anyway, so it's impossible for this to be strictly a Japanese unit. The DTL-T10000 H J is also 100V-240V and it also has the NTSC and PAL selection DIP switch. Not sure why SCE changed the label.
the previous owner told me, plus, it has namco stickers allover it, and a dev build of a namco game on a drive. i did find it odd myself too, would make more sense for being used at namco usa or something, but then again, IIRC usa also uses 110V all in all, i dont really even care all that much, it runs, and i dont have to use a power adapter for it, so all is good. Although, the thing is more of a relic for me than a thing i use, i got 12 modded ps2's so using a TEST just for the sake of using a TEST is not something on my to-do list really. Only times i do actually use it is when i have to deal with something related to the PCMCIA models. (PSBBN hacking mostly) i dont remember the product code of it, i'd have to check that up. as for the TOOL's sticker, no idea, i would guess that the additional warning stickers and whatnots are added to comply with some regulations or something. still, doesn't explain why the region is marked differently on the sticker though.
