Playstation 2 SCPH-9000x

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  1. kyo86sg

    kyo86sg Intrepid Member

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    The One and only, Classic

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    I got a chance to get this unit modded with Super 7 E17 for a cheap price, DateCode shows as 2B (I assume it was the last few batches done up in 2012).

    I was wondering on the reliability for this slim compared to 7000X,7500X,7700X and 7900X series.

    Does it have overheating issues and laser issues like the earlier slim models? (Where romeo mod is needed to prevent the laser from getting spoiled for those who are playing with copies)

    I understand that this series with datecode 8C/8D or above wont be able to boot FCMB memory card, however its not really important to me, as the USB compatibility using USB 1.1 ports is low compared to Phat PS2 using Network adapter and IDE hdd. (I have already got a V7 Phat SCPH-39001)

    Thus, I just want your thoughts and opinion on is this the best built of the PS2 Slim available?(In terms of Laser (Uses KHM-430C, Cooling and durability)

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    Dimensions
    Approximately 230 mm (W) × 28 mm (H) × 152 mm (D)

    Weight
    Approximately 720 grams

    Power Requirements
    120/220 V AC, 60/50 Hz

    Electrical current consumption (power consumption)
    Approximately 35W

    Compatible Format
    PlayStation format CD-ROM
    PlayStation®2 system format CD-ROM
    PlayStation®2 system format DVD-ROM
    Audio CD
    DVD-RW (VR mode)
    DVD-Video**
    **The term "DVD-Video" is used to refer to DVD-R, DVD-RW (Video mode), DVD+R and DVD+RW discs.

    Interfaces
    2 Controller Ports
    2 MEMORY CARD slots
    2 USB connectors
    1 NETWORK connector (100BASE-TX/10BASE-T)
    1 LINE connector (modem : RJ-11C)
    1 DC IN 8.5V connector
    1 AV MULTI OUT connector
    1 DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL ) connector
    1 Infrared I/R Receiver
     
  2. sp193

    sp193 Site Soldier

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    I cannot comment on the reliability of this particular model's laser (Somebody else has to comment on it here)... but I can say that slimlines have the best drives (Excluding the SCPH-70000 series), in comparison to the fat PS2s. AFAIK, the Romeo mod is for the SCPH-50000 series, and not the slimlines.

    USB game compatibility is actually not that bad. Only a handful of games won't run, but these games have either some bug or they've broken the Sony TRC without Sony discovering that (Or they were lax regarding the rule that games shouldn't perform timing based on the CD/DVD drive's transfer rate). If OPL cannot allow you to run some games, try PS2ESDL instead (It has a different game compatibility list), and is tuned for USB device support.

    My own slimline is a SCPH-77006. This one is the console that I've been using to develop software since 2009. Which means that it's been heavily used because of how long my coding sessions are (Even the laser, because I used Swapmagic before I learned what FMCB was), but it still works fine. Today, it does heat up, but I think that my SCPH-10000 consoles are scarrier.

    There was a discussion on PSX-scene regarding the "best" PlayStation 2 model. I remember that they were saying that the v4 was great because it had the least problems, the v7/v8 was great for modding, and the SCPH-77000 series was the best (or was it one of the best?) slimline. I don't remember whether the SCPH-79000 was out then.
     
  3. Dreamcastnews

    Dreamcastnews Gutsy Member

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    Are the 9000 series PS2's starting to raise in popularity? Over here it's pretty difficult to obtain one versus the 7000 slims.
     
  4. Tokimemofan

    Tokimemofan Dauntless Member

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    The 7500x and above units have odd bugs and glitches on many games, Thousand arms for example has the wrong music on the title screen when played on those units, I'd say the best is a toss up between the 10 screw 3000x and the 3900x with the 400C laser, ANYTHING with the old style HD7 laser is junk, For slims the older 9000x.
     
  5. sp193

    sp193 Site Soldier

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    I hope not, because I think that the new models look bad in terms of construction quality. :/

    But Thousand Arms appears to be a PlayStation game. Surely that doesn't really count because some emulation is involved? While it's still a problem which Sony didn't fix, at least there is a reason.

    From the Sony page here, it appears that the SCPH-75000 series has issues with running certain PlayStation and PlayStation 2 titles, but it's only a handful of them: http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/softwaretitles_75001/.

    Also, I think that saying "many" is a little too strong here, unless you meant to say that something undeniably great on a global scale like around 30% of the games out there won't work on these units.

    The HD7 is newer than the KHS-400C (It first appears in the late SCPH-39000 v8 series). Perhaps you're referring to the older R-type laser, which is the KHS-400R?

    I've got a HD7 in my SCPH-39006 and it feels better than the KHS-400C that my (ex-)SCPH-39001 had. At least, it's less picky with the sort of discs it'll read.
     
  6. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    SF-HD7 (SANYO) was first seen on US SCPH-30001R/SCPH-37000 series (GH-015) and also on SCPH-39000 (GH-019/022) :)

    In my humble opinion, anything made from launch until 2002 makes for the BEST PlayStation2 possible experience. The product quality started to nosedive at the SCPH-5000x series, unfortunately.

    Since modchips are no longer prevalent nor MEANINGFUL the most interesting models are those which give you best maintenance options and parts availability. That one being the units based on the "D-CHASSIS" design (GH-010/013/014/016) which can use both KHS400B and KHS400C laser without any kind of modding.
     
  7. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    I have not heard any overheating issues with SCPH-9000x but there are models with separate radiator and other with EMI shield as a radiator.
    I think 77 is the best one. FMCB compatible and new laser is easy to get.
    Though 50 was designed to cut cost it was less noisy than other fats. I would not recommend using fats for discs.
     
  8. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    90000 Is too underpowered to overheat. The problem it has is with modding, though. Sometimes people do fit the modchip carelessly and that causes the motherboard to flex. That breaks the BGA chips ruining the console. And that seems to be "by design". Typical "just enough to last two years" SONY engineering.
     
  9. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    dunno how flexed motherboard because of a modchip is Sony shoddy engineering :D
     
  10. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    I explained. The board could be thicker. They decided to make it thinner to save money and make it fragile against modchips is kind of a bonus.
     
  11. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    Yeah and make more expensive. It costs $99. PS2 parts are more expensive now because of small demand.
    Actually PS2 manufacturing was halted because of production costs.
     
  12. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    I think it has more to do with lack of interest. (No people interested in buying new PS2 consoles anymore)
     
  13. pheonix

    pheonix Spirited Member

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    well there is a small minority that do such as myself i love collecting Ps2's @l_oliveira what's your views on Modbo 4.0 or Matrix infinity clones? (i have 2 in my inventory) i don't have as much knowledge concerning ps2s like most people on here
     
  14. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    I read quote something like this: we would like to continue production but it is not viable anymore, there is a demand in developing countries. Can not find exact quote though.
    I think EE+GS+RDRAM chip is pretty hard to make. Especially if RAM was on different die.
     
  15. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    At this point, they won't build a console for $80 if it's to be sold for $100 considering they're 100% sure the said consoles will be running pirated software.

    I am 1000% against modchips, by the way.
     
  16. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    Xbox 360 mods are essential though. DVDs are pretty easy to scratch. Even with soft cloth. Also my X360 made a circle on disc once (without moving, horizontal position). Since then I always use backups.
    If I were to talk about shoddy engineering it'd be MS. Even Xbone has some non-solid capacitors.
     
  17. pheonix

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    I am 1000% against modchips, by the way.[/QUOTE]

    fair play
     
  18. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    You have to be trying to scratch up a DVD.

    I have, literally, thousands of games on CD, DVD and BD media.

    I have never, ever, lost a disc to a scratch.
     
  19. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    Small scratches are just annoying. But Xbox just destroys discs itself.
     
  20. hl718

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    No, it doesn't. If you have a console (of any sort) that is destroying discs you are either moving the console with discs in it or you've damaged the console somehow.

    Lasers do not magically come into contact with spinning discs.
     
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