PlayStation 8in1 game disk

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by mdmx, Jun 26, 2010.

  1. Kiddcade

    Kiddcade Active Member

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    I don't think such "cutting" ever actually occured. it's more feasible they got their hands on teh security ring press as it was being thrown out from an official disc. I used to have that PS-X-Change CD and IIRC it worked a lot like an aCtion Replay. But it booted on unmodded systems.
     
  2. Mystical

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    yes i didnt mean they physically cut the disc protection out and glued it on another, thought it was similar to the Datel action replay discs on the GC for example where it used an EA sports game boot description (NHL i think), sorry wasnt very clear
     
  3. san186

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    Wrong. Swapmagic/hd loader/hd loader advance are actually Printed professionally(i used to own the original disks). If you put the disk in a pc it has the Sony details from a game I cant remember.

    Action replay and freeloader on the gamecube did the same exact thing but the game they used was crazy taxi.
     
  4. Mystical

    Mystical Resolute Member

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    please read the post above yours
     
  5. H360

    H360 Familiar Face

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    Like Yakumo said, it is not hard to fit many games onto a single CD-ROM.

    There is only a few sounds and images, then the actual .exe. The DEMO's / compilations, remove all the movies / video and huge soundtrack data.

    I think Vib Ribbon, with the audio stuff removed, makes it only a 4 MB .exe :lol:

    I know the Crash Bandicoot series use dummy files to add padding. It was Jason's idea I think, to stop pirating downloads.
     
  6. smf

    smf mamedev

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    People were cutting saturn discs, but I doubt it was ever widespread commercially. It was easy as the "barcode" was read and you can see where it is to cut it out.

    The PS1 boot was reverse engineered though and it's easily reproduced if you're pressing discs. I wouldn't want to try to achieve this with cutting, transplating the lead in of a cd would be very difficult.

    The PS1 swap disc I have doesn't look like a cut and shut anyway.
     
  7. LocalH

    LocalH Spirited Member

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    My Swap Magic 3.6 disc definitely looks like the inner ring has been physically cut from another disc. It's main ELF is named SLUS_200.71, which is DoA2: Hardcore NTSC/U release.
     
  8. Motwera

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    These things were so popular in Third world countries back them as I remember..
     
  9. alecjahn

    alecjahn Site Soldier

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    I would loooove a picture of that. Any chance of that?
     
  10. LocalH

    LocalH Spirited Member

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    I'll try to get one in the next couple of days. I'll probably decide to dig out my flatbed scanner so as to show it better.
     
  11. oldmanhouse

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    My Swap Magic 3.3 (PAL) disc shows up as Crazy Taxi when you put it in a computer. It was my understanding that they pressed their code over the top of a retail copy of Crazy Taxi. Probably wrong though.. would be interested if anyone knows the answer. I think them getting a hold of the security rings sounds feasible.. maybe not cutting them off though.
     
  12. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    It's more likely that they reversed the protection and simply copied the signature from another game for it's use. I remember hearing Datel engineers talk about the reversing subject, but declining to share more technical details since it was still a viable product for them.
     
  13. san186

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    Swap magic used crazy taxi as they had access to the glass master. Crazy taxi was picked to due to the huge TOC.

    Found the answer on psx-scene
     
  14. H360

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    How they would have made those discs, is they would have either had an official development DTL Sony drive to inject the boot code, or made a custom drive to do so.

    As I have learnt, this is what the mod chips inject at the right time, before booting the disc.

    Someone could make such a drive, but it is hard of course.

    The purple dye / tint to the discs on original games, was I believe to let consumers know if it was an original disc or not. Hence, help with piracy.
     
  15. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    I know bushing on his blog did a write up about Datel reversing DS code to boot their Action Replay. *If I remember correctly*:rolleyes:

    I thought doing this was illegal, how can they get away with this?
     
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  16. san186

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    If you have access to the master cd then ringing originals and modifying data isn't very hard. Hd loader got banned in Europe straight away in uk lol. I don't know why they never banned them world wide or even went looking for the creators as they released a newer version of swap magic and USB advance.
     
  17. Azathoth

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    I never understood why pirates obviously had the ability (later on) of producing self-booting PS1 & PS2 disks (such as Swap Magic, Breaker Pro, etc) yet never used that tech to just flat out copy self-booting commercial counterfeits.

    And as for the Swap Magic disks looking "cut", they were manufactured that way to discourage piracy of their own product.
     
  18. MattyHusted

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    both HDLoader and HDAdvance discs use Crazi Taxi SLES/SLUS to boot on retail ps2
     
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