PlayStation digital controller variants.

Discussion in 'Sony Programming and Development' started by JackBurton, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. defor

    defor Intrepid Member

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    Nope- I can assure you that neither the DTL-H2000 nor 2500 can accept anything but a 9-pin port, although the external controller box was more commonly used later in the development lifecycle it appears, likely due to the ridiculousness of the memory card device and dedicated controller, and newer devices with official and unofficial support.
    My guess is that the one you had listed was a homemade (or other) parallel-port controller mod.
     
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    Yes, it's a db-9 connector but it the signals are the same as the retail console. Either they hadn't picked the final connector at the time, or they didn't want the cost of including it in the developer board.
     
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    Updated!

    Searching now for more info on the Coolpad. Thanks to whitzrac from this forum for finding it.
     
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    I have hundreds of psx controllers, many rare. I will take pictures.
     
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    JackBurton Rapidly Rising Member

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    That will be good.:smile-new:
     
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    Updated again with a photo of the back of the red controller.

    What's strange about those prototype controllers is that I see their design echoed in many of the crappy 3rd party controllers that were released in the early days of the console.

    It makes you wonder if 3rd party companies had access to the prototype controllers to base their designs off of, and never bothered to change them once Sony decided to go in a new direction.

    [​IMG]

    And this is sort of interesting too:

    PSX prototype vs N64 proto
    Seems like a tiny bit of design heritage passed from the SNES CD > PlayStation > N64.

    Notice that the Square and X buttons are wider apart just like on the N64 proto's left and right C buttons.

    [​IMG]

    Different PSX proto vs retail N64
    [​IMG]
     
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  8. defor

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    heh- just unloaded my entire collection of rare colors to mugi :D
    just fyi- EVERY one of my red, black, white, and smoke are H variants
    also, the white color is "UW", and black is "UB"
    not sure what red or smoke are.
     
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    How do the colored controllers feel? I've noticed some colored controllers have a noticeably different finish than the standard models.
     
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    I have a boxed coolpad in the clear green - what to you want to know abut it?
     
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    Well, the thing I would want to know most about it would be seeing what kind of PCB it has inside of it. But since it's boxed it seems that would be difficult.

    Can you look on it and see what sort of copyright or trademark information the box has? Any kind of clues as to whether or not it is an official Sony product.

    Is the SONY logo nice and defined? Is it on straight?

    It's my guess that the Coolpad is using an official (older) SCPH-1080 mold, but the question is whether or not it was manufactured by one of the big three controller makers: Hori, Alps, and Mitsumi. Otherwise, it could be a bit of corporate espionage.
     
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    link83 Enthusiastic Member

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    Just a minor correction - the 'H' does not stand for Hori, it stands for Hosiden:-
    http://www.hosiden.com/
    You can see their name printed on the PCB pictures on the previous page.

    Hosiden also manufactured the official Nintendo 64 controllers (Although Hori manufactured the Lodgenet version) as well as some GameCube controllers, and some Wii Remote/Wii Remote Plus (Look up their FCC ID's of VIYCFS8500/VIYCFS8510)

    Personally I find the Mitsumi manufactured Nintendo controllers to be of better quality than the others (Nintendo uses quite a few different manufacturers) but maybe its the opposite for PlayStation controllers?
     
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    Just checked- here's the product codes for the other special colors if you want to add them:
    White: SCPH-1080 UW
    Black: SCPH-1080 UB
    Red: SCPH-1080 URJ
    Smoke: SCPH-1080 EBI

    SCPH-1020 memory cards exist with the same serial variants to match for all except UW (white)
     
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    I'll update the info on the first page very soon, along with a few PCB photos.

    The later Mitsumi PlayStation controllers used a very thin film-like substance for the electrical circuit, rather than the PCB you find in the other controllers. For this reason, they are a little bit harder to repair or re-purpose.

    @Son of Solo

    Thank you very much for those photos. From my first glance that PCB looks unlike any SCPH-1080 pcb I've seen. After I've done a little bit or research I think I can make more informed statement, but for now I'm going to consider the CoolPad strictly third party.
     
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    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Sorry, but that's a Chinese counterfeit controller.
     
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