Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld 1997 Demo info

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  1. celebi23

    celebi23 Rising Member

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    So, here's a little something that I've been working on for awhile. With all of the HG/SS hype lately, it got me interested in continuing this project. My goal was to collect information about G/S, before it was delayed in March of 1998. I compiled a website containing my findings (not really organized, mostly an information dumpsite)
    http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Main.html

    The most amazing part of my findings is that I've been able to track down about 4-First hand accounts of the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld 1997 Demo. With those, I was able to create a decent summary of the demo. Please keep in mind that I had to use Google/Yahoo Babelfish/Excite translation tools so, the translations may not be 100% accurate. If anyone is fluent in Japanese & would want to translate some of these pages, that would be amazing :lol:

    Combined Spaceworld 1997 Demo Information

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    • Expected Release Date: March 1998
    • Tentative Price: 3500 yen each
    • Game was 80 percent complete.

    [​IMG] [​IMG] (<--The demo stations in the right bottom corner of this picture)

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    A map of the Gold/Silver Demo area. The Silver Demo area is on top & the Gold demo area is on the bottom. On the far right part of the map is the Gold/Silver movie area. Some demo stations were located in this area as well. They showed a short video with names/artwork of new Pokémon. There were 60 demo stations for Gold & 60 for Silver.

    Now on to the summary:
    Demo was played on November 22nd, 1997. The demo originally lasted 10 minutes. This was later reduced to 5 minutes due to the long lines.

    Demo started with Lapras surfing, Pikachu singing, Charizard's Flamethrower. Title screen is Ho-oh/Lugia depending on which demo you played.

    You had to say what time it was before the demo could continue. Professor Oak appeared at the start of the game to introduce you to the world of Pokémon. You're automatically named Ash Ketchum.

    The game started in the town "Silent Hills". You started in your room.

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    There was a random assignment of a LV.8 Pokémon:

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    Kurusu
    PokéDex No.:212
    Type:Water
    Moves:Growl, Water Gun, Tackle

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    Honooguma
    PokéDexNo.:
    Type: Fire
    Moves: Ember, Leer, Scratch

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    Happa
    PokéDex No.:152
    Type: Grass
    Moves:Tackle, Serene, Leech Seed

    No matter which started you were given, a Nut was equipped to it. When your Pokémon's HP amount drops below half, it is automatically recovered at the end of the turn.
    You had the following items:
    PokéBalls x 5
    Heal Powder? x 10
    Mint Berry x 1
    Revive/Revival Herb? x 1

    In your room, you had an N64, dolls, radio, computer, etc. A radio transmission played:
    "Oak disappeared from Kanto. There is a view of moved the location for a new Pokémon & this event might be the cause. The safety is a concern."
    It might be at this point that Oak found the new Pokémon. The PC is connected to a homepage somewhere & says "Yoroidori (Eaamudo/Skarmory) is the newly discovered Pokémon. It's type is flying & it's classified as metal.
    The rival shows up. It is another boy from Red/Green/Blue?

    In the demo, you couldn't go into Oak's Lab or even a Pokémon Center to rest your Pokémon. Someone stops you from entering the Pokémon Center.

    Taking the exit on the west side of town, there were a few patches of tall grass. The following Pokémon were confirmed as wild Pokémon:
    Pidgey
    Rattata
    Pikachu
    Mariru (Marill) (No,179)
    Kirinriki (Girafarig) (still used the old design of two heads)
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    Sunny (Sunflora)
    Haneko (Hoppip) No.214
    Rediba (Ledyba) No.202

    When a Pokémon was captured, it is recorded in your Pokédex (you automatically start with one in this demo). With the new Pokémon, it only states "Newly discovered Pokémon. Under investigation."

    When encountering a wild Pokémon, a PokéBall pattern displays on the screen. Graphically, it's similar to Red/Green. Your Pokémon has it's back to you & it is facing the wild Pokémon. Under the HP gauge, there's a gauge to show how much more experience your Pokémon needs to get to the next Level. When capturing a Pokémon, the ball splits, One half above the wild Pokémon & the other half below. Much more like the Anime's version of capturing Pokémon.

    There is a highland to the west of this area that resembles Veridian Forest. There's some Pokémon Trainers in the grass. The wild Pokémon in this area:
    Caterpie
    Metapod
    Paras
    Venonat
    Clefairy
    Meowth
    Slowking

    Two of the Pokémon Trainers in the Forest were:

    Schoolboy
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    Lass
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    There is ??? at the end of the Forest. Your rival is also there. Talk to him & the demo ends. While it was getting dark, Hoothoot & Puku (a flying squirrel, maybe Sentret?) were found in the Forest.

    I combined the following sources to create the summary of the Spaceworld 1997 Demo:
    http://www.reocities.com/TimesSquare/Castle/5553/prepm2.html
    *http://translate.google.com/transla...mesSquare/Castle/5553/prepm2.html&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat.../5553/prepm2.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en...e/Castle/5553/prepm2.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2


    http://web.archive.org/web/20021114111108/http://www.bekkoame.ne.jp/~niki/poke2.html
    *http://translate.google.com/transla...w.bekkoame.ne.jp/~niki/poke2.html&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat.../~niki/poke2.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en...me.ne.jp/~niki/poke2.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2


    http://www3.synapse.ne.jp/pacific/users/pokemon/ibutsu/kingin_time_capsule/pokemon.html
    *http://translate.google.com/transla.../kingin_time_capsule/pokemon.html&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...sule/pokemon.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en...time_capsule/pokemon.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2


    http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/pokeold/archive/kingin.htm
    *http://translate.google.com/transla...kepale/pokeold/archive/kingin.htm&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...rchive/kingin.htm&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en...okeold/archive/kingin.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2


    http://koikinnohp.web.fc2.com/text/kousatu02.htm
    *http://translate.google.com/transla...hp.web.fc2.com/text/kousatu02.htm&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...ext/kousatu02.htm&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en...c2.com/text/kousatu02.htm&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2


    http://hakuda2.web.fc2.com/ir/poke2/t6.html
    *http://translate.google.com/transla...uda2.web.fc2.com/ir/poke2/t6.html&sl=ja&tl=en
    *http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat.../ir/poke2/t6.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
    *http://www.excite-webtl.jp/world/en....fc2.com/ir/poke2/t6.html&wb_lp=JAEN&wb_dis=2

    Other
    *www.nintendo.co.jp/n12/report/112202.html
    *www.nintendo.co.jp/n12/report/112203.html

    Here's the website version of the above post:
    http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Combined_Demo_Info.html

    And a short summary of the video shown near the G/S demo area:
    http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Combined_Video_Info.html

    I've got a ton more information on http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Main.html
    Screenshots of G/S before it was delayed in March of 1998, early game art, the first PokéDex entry (Screenshot is Amphrados from some point in 1997), press releases, magazine scans, etc.
     
  2. feder

    feder Gutsy Member

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    Silents Hill? That's a huge coincidence, because Silent Hill wasn't yet released.

    I heard a lot of things about this demo and I would like to play it, but I still think that the final Pokemon Gold and Silver were better, that extra year they had really benefited the game.
     
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  3. celebi23

    celebi23 Rising Member

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    You've heard about this demo? :eek:h: Do you have any other information to add to/correct about my summary? Anything you can add would be fantastic :icon_bigg
     
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    feder Gutsy Member

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    Yes, I had a pic with an early Goldenrod City, the radio tower looked really small compared to the final one.
     
  5. celebi23

    celebi23 Rising Member

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    Let me guess, it's this pic, right?

    http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/GAME_BOY_SPACEWORLD97_software_vol.3_Profile.html

    http://idisk.me.com/celebi23/Public/PKMN/1998 02 - Computer and Videogames.png

    http://idisk.me.com/celebi23/Public/PKMN/spaceworld97pm_silver.PNG

    I meant to ask that if you had any more information, about the Spaceworld demo specifically, that'd be awesome. Sorry if I wasn't clear
     
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    feder Gutsy Member

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    That's the one, I Didn't see it in your site today, I guess I just skipped it, Unfortunately I don't have any new footage.
     
  7. celebi23

    celebi23 Rising Member

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    Not a problem. Might you have any other information about the Spaceworld demo?
     
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    Cooleo Dauntless Member

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    Was this ever dumped?
     
  10. celebi23

    celebi23 Rising Member

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    Cooleo, nah, it was never dumped

    A couple of updates. First off, I know that my website is acting up. It's just not displaying the html pages in Safari. If you view the source of the pages, everything is still there. I just republished the entire site & that didn't fix it >_< I'm going to call Apple's MobileMe support on Monday

    Second, some of the earliest Pokémon Gold/Silver artwork came from this magazine cover

    http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Game_Review_Volume_14_files/game14.gif

    No scans from the magazine itself exist. That might change soon. I did a search on Google & came up with

    http://ameblo.jp/trio-the-punch/entry-10332216419.html
    http://ameblo.jp/trio-the-punch/image-10332216419-10243930367.html

    It looks like the guy has a whole collection of these magazines. I sent him a message (yay Google Translate >_< ) asking if he actually has that issue & if he could scan it & then email me the scans. Will keep you guys updated
     
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  11. Micjohvan

    Micjohvan Familiar Face

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    I like the 2 new looking starters actually. Would be sweet if this was ever dumped. Can anyone confirm a copy in a collectors hands anywhere or even in the wild?

    lol at silent hill town :p That would have been funny after it got released, might have even helped sales o_O
     
  12. Demo

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    I don't think that anybody has this :110:
     
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