Nah, that title goes to the Sega Saturn No, that was the Virtual Boy Well, every console of the time had a shitton of Disney games on it Sega Saturn would make a better one, it's bigger. You were pretty much wrong on every point... hmm
These are the games I bought while the N64 was still "active" (also later picked up Conker's Bad Fur Day, Banjo Tooie and imported Sin and Punishment and Bangai-O. Also had Aero Fighters Assault, Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, some Mario Party games, don't remember which ones, and Duke Nukem 64, dunno where those went) Ofcourse, I somewhat can't argue with "worst Nintendo console", as I guess one system has to be the "not best" system. As for Disney label and lame duck, I guess quite a lot of the multiplayer action you can see in that picture pretty much beats that down. But okay, sure, it didn't have the biggest library ever. And the majority of the "big" titles on it were "for everyone". But I honestly don't regret buying any of the games for that system, which is very unusual. But I think I can explain why; 1; Multiplayer. I love multiplayer, all my friends loves multiplayer and none of them are bad losers, so there's no one that doesn't want to play multiplayer when it's possible. 2; No alternatives. Some of the games were strong exclusives or weren't just that appealing on other systems. (loading times, controls and gimped/no multiplayer)
Actually, no every point I made was correct. But, if you want to play the game, I will. (maybe next time you can actually provide some reasons as to why I was incorrect rather than just saying "so were you...") Point 1: Sega Saturn was the lame duck of it's generation Proof: PSX sold 100 Million+ systems, N64 sold 30 Million+ systems, Sega Saturn sold only 10 Million systems. Point 2: The Virtual Boy was the worst Nintendo Console ever made Proof: The system was so bad, Gunpei Yokoi technically lost his job over it. Point 3: There were a shitton of Disney games on consoles at the time and after Proof: I take it you've never been to a video game store if you disagree with this one. I could list all the Disney games that weren't on Nintendo systems (or were multi platform) but that would take forever, so here's on example: "A Bug's Life" Point 4: The Sega Saturn would make a much better door stop than the N64. Proof: It's bigger, and heavier than the N64... plus it has those nice straight edges which will allow it to hold stronger doors than the N64 could ever dream of holding. guy, whoever you are... if you're going to talk trash at least TRY to back it up.
1. I didn't consider Saturn in the same generation as the N64. I can't think of anyone who had to make the choice of buying the Saturn or the N64. I'd say Dreamcast was a better pick if you want to go with Sega. I say "lame duck" from a gamers perspective not sales alone and while I'm not a huge fan of the US Saturn releases I feel they still have more exclusives to offer than the N64. Same of the Dreamcast. 2. Virtual boy was a handheld. I'm talking about home systems you know the ones you plug into the TV in the living room. 3. No rpgs, a few crappy fighters, they did have goldeneye I'll give you that but what exclusives did they really have that wouldn't feel out of place in a Disneyland playset? Even Conkers has the cartoon kiddie feel. 4. The N64 has a nice angle on the topside which actually does make an ok doorstop. The Saturn is just too square so unless you cut it with a jigsaw it just doesn't work as well.
Ogre Battle 64, Quest 64, Paper Mario, etc. EDIT: Oh, and don't forget, being turn-based DOES NOT MEAN a game may be an RPG or not, unless you love JRPGs with androgynous bishies.
Orge Battle 64 - Is it that much different than the PS1 version? I always considered this the "madden 64" of strategy exclusives. Minor changes throw 64 in the title and away we go. More a stratgey game than an RPG but I'll give it to you anyway. Quest 64 - You really are hurtin to bring this up. Paper Mario - Great another freakin Mario game and it happens to be the best RPG on the N64 Whats this etc you speak of? Ayiden Cronicles? I count 2 worth playing 1 a strategy game the other ANOTHER mario game. 2 RPGs?
bitch about the ole' n64 all you want, it was pure fun. funner than the gamecube, funner than the PSX. it was a multi-player master-piece. it was the console that proved multiplayer to work as a standard feature actually. I can't remember having this much fun with others around a PSX or even a DC.
Correct is in the interpretation... And in it's home country the N64 got outsold by the Sega Saturn, despite the N64 being on sale longer. He resigned and then set up another company, he wasn't sacked or forced out over it. Also the Pokemon Mini is a games consoles and that sold much less then the Virtual Boy... I'm not disagreeing with this one, although I still love the fact that the only DDR game on the N64 featured disney songs and characters... Again neither here or there, the Atari 2600 JR is the ultimate door stop. A hernia is funner then a gamecube going by the sales figures (it really was the worst selling non battery Nintendo Console...) as for the PSX, well I would struggle to find more then a dozen games that I would play for any length of time on the N64 where I have a library to choose from on the PSX... I have a couple of N64 games but I've not been tempted to buy a machine to play the games on... Maybe the funner part is how far you can fling the machine out of the window? Obviously you never played a PC Engine then... was having multiplayer fun on that with games like Bomberman and Motoroader before the N64 was a twinkle in Nintendos eye. Then again was having multiplayer fun on Warlords on the Atari VCS even many years before then...
Never played Ayiden Chronicles, but it IS an RPG. If I recall correctly, Ogre Battle 64 was an ENTIRELY new game. Paper Mario - So what if its Mario? At least it was the best RPG on the N64, and many other Mario themed role playing games so far have failed to...fail, imo. Quest 64- Yeah, it wasn't stellar, but it was my first RPG. It should be renamed "Fisher Price presents: My first RPG", but it really got me into the big, bad world of RPG gaming though. There is one thing that still irritates me about some elements though, like why Fire Hurts ice, but water hurts fire, but ice is just a solid form of water...:shrug: The "ETC" I was talking about were, well, the Pokemon Stadium game(s), Harvest Moon 64, Hybrid Heaven (some call it a fighter/RPG) as well as a few "Japan only" RPGs, such as Zool, Onegai Monsters, And Mysterious Dungeon: Shiren the Wanderer 2. Sure, the N64 didn't have a great selection of RPGs, but there are sure more than "None". The world doesn't revolve around RPGs anyway. Some may have had better stories than other genres back in the 90s, but thats changed in the last 5-10 years.
I guess it's all about perspective. BTW, I wouldn't consider the VB a handheld. I never tried putting one in my pocket, but I doubt it'd fit very well. Again, perspective... I know Nintendo marketed it as a "portable" but honestly, it was a far cry from being something you could carry around a play with you anywhere. Oh, and I'll have you know my Saturn has yet to fail in holding any door I've ever put it up against, thank you very much! :110: So you're saying the rest of the world doesn't matter. Who gives a damn if it did better in one place or another, you have to look at the overall picture, and in the end the N64 stomped the Saturn. You're stretching now, brining up the Pokemon Mini... it was a key chain LCD "system", hardly a contender and not even a console. BTW, he left to create his own company because after his VB failed Nintendo basically said "screw you" and put him in a dead end paper pushing job that had practically no responsibility. How the hell does the creator of the Game & Watch and the GameBoy get into a situation like that? That is most definitely true.
it's barc0de people , not barcode and no, i ve never owned a PCengine - for some reason the "PC" part of the name puts me off, doesnt really remind me of a console
I love how Goldeneye only sold 130,000 copies in Japan, lolz. Yet, people still try to market FPS over there. Anyway, the N64 was not a failure. It might not have been the market winner, but any console that is home to at least 2 of what is probably the top 10 games of all time cannot be a "failure", especially when they were first-party titles the console was designed around. It was a great console to play first-party Nintendo software on. I'm exceedingly glad that software wasn't put on any console that Nintendo didn't design because it wouldn't have been nearly as elegant. Nintendo consoles exist to play Nintendo designed software, anything else is just a bonus. The console was very specialized to make it a good platform for certain pieces of software. Any "dilution" of this specialization to make it a better platform for 3rd party titles would've been a downgrade, IMO.
Are you honestly saying that the N64 has no gaming value to you at all? There are plenty of good games on the N64, if you can't see that then I'd reckon it's more down to your own personal bias than the N64 itself.
I guess it is personal bais then. Of the 10 or so exclusive titles worth playing most have sequals on the gamecube which are better. You won't see me pulling out SNES mario kart for the same reason but Earthbound is reason alone to keep the system. Owning a gamestore I took home whatever system I needed to play whatever game caught my eye at the time. I rarely took home a N64. The games were always more expensive than disc based games. I played Goldeneye ,Mario Party and Mario Kart for a bit and they were all decent games but they didn't hold my attention long. I haven't picked up an N64 in years. It just doesn't have one "must have" title IMHO. Big disapointment when compared to the NES,SNES or gamecube.
The two Zeldas, Paper/Mario 64/Tennis, Smash Bros, Rogue Squadron, Mischief Makers, Banjo Kazooie... these are good games, and are just a few off the top of my head. Do some of them have better sequels? Maybe, but then they're much later sequels. Looking at those games in their context, they hold up well compared to the competition. I don't agree with Barc0de (who obviously has some serious love for the system), I do think the Gamecube has better games. I still keep an N64 around though, it has its moments.
Well I'll say that with SEGA hardware it was that times 10. Just look at their actual game catalog: its nowhere near the quality it had during the days of the Genesis, Saturn or Dreamcast... The thing is nintendo software is pretty good but too scarce. SEGA was able to support the DC with more games than 3rd parties did, but in the case of Nintendo they (lately) have barely more 1st parties titles than the PS2, and not even near that many exclusive games as they had during the Snes years. But on the business side of things, Nintendo is literally full of money, while SEGA was broke until recently, so who knows...
Pokemon saved Nintendo's handheld market by keeping the GB a via platform for another few years and putting pennies in the Nintendo Warchest
