Politician tries to get GTA:SA bumped up from a M rating to a AO rating

At least left-wing liberals agree that videogames aint something to blame for rampant teenage violence :smt045

Here in argentina even the left-wing things that games may be dangerous for a childs well-development.

PD: not that we are a bunch of crazy-right wing douches like the uzbecks. It just that there are bigger problems at hand, and nobody really cares about games.

Now thats something the US politicians should look at, intead of blaming games for everything, why dont you look at you corporate-run media, your deep hole in the budget, the irak war and your sky-high deficit? :-D

Yeah i forgot, in the land of the free its worst to download a song than commit rape or murder :smt067

 

As much as I agree with your criticisms, I must warn you that posting such things is no longer allowed as it caused to many trouble in the past. Welcome to the board, though, and enjoy your stay

 

If anything making the game 18+ would HELP sales of the game (tho really it has already sold millions of copies) if you think about it, some people who were on the fence would probably hear about how the game has so much adult content that it is adult only and then buy it.

 

I always thought making it an AO rated game would keep all these parents and politicians mouths shut and some kids out of trouble, because AO rated games can ONLY be purchased by adults, and are never seen in normal stores....I'm pretty sure no console game has ever gotten the rating, but I think some PC games have...at least I remember seeing some as a kid...

 

right and left wing tend to mean different things in different countries, id keep that in mind when you are talking politics. in american politics the democrats have been traditionally the ones who have tried to censor, ban, or regulate violence and 'obscenity' in movies/music/t.v./videogames/ect... in the past couple of decades religious fundamentalists have been gaining power on both sides of the political spectrum, and within their agrenda comes the obvious want to outright ban any and all things that may conflict with their religious ideology...

but i think you answered your own question. the u.s. isnt 'free.' the people here have no voice. our government keeps us sedated, they keep us content with terri shiavo, burger king, and viagra because if they didnt they would have a revolution on their hands.

the problem is a complete lack of personal and parental responsibility. parents go into videogame stores and buy crap for their young children all the time. the other day this woman walks into gamestop with these two kids the height of my kneecap and asks the clerk "is there rape in gta?" clerk says no, but you can have sex and sex with prostitutes and after you have sex with the prostitute you can kill her and get your money back...the woman responds "but you cant rape women" the clerk says no...she buys the fucking game for the kids. i have seen this exact thing happen more than once. in the u.s. parents use the t.v. to raise their children. they dont really give a shit what it is they watch. proof of that is that pbs allmost lost all funding for its kid programing, and there was no outcry from the public. you sit a kid in front of a t.v. that is exactly what you would want your kid to watch. so instead of watching sesame street we would have had a whole generation raised on law and order, nypd blue, big brother, g-string divas, sex in the city, and sienfeld? christ imagine how fucked up theyld all be. parents dont want to take the time and effort to raise their children so when religious groups, corperations, or government offer to take over the responsibity they are happy to let them.

 

well said, its kinda sad how much media can get a bad rap cause parents dont bother at all to moniter what their children are watching. Trust me this is just how it is here, blame it on something else and do nothing about it, but from the looks of it, it seems that this guy might lose his case, caue all rockstar has to do is prove its not in the games code, plus even if it was, they can easily argue its not accecible to anyway without major hacking knowdledge, i mean did anyone comlpain when people hacked doxb to have naked players with boob texture made, well tecmo did but it didnt go blown out of proportion.

 

Yeah, this is not a liberal vs. conservative thing. It's more of a "responsible parent" vs. "dumbass who can procreate" thing.

Then both liberals and conservatives (though the latter have done it way much more, since, after all, they thrive on fear and outrage) capitalise with scapegoating concepts while making irresponsible voters feel good about themselves; "It's not my fault, it's the games/the guns/TV - Society is fucked up because of someone else, not my sorry irresponsible arse".

It's a matter of political pandering and dumbasses who can vote and want to cast blame elsewhere.

And for the record, GTA sucks ass - but I'm 100% in favour of it being sold without censorship to responsible people over 17, like the label says. I've sure seen worse ways to waste 40 dollars.

 

While it's fair to say both sides are willing to sign on when it suits them surprisingly here it is the Democrats that tend to get the ball rolling. This is odd considering it's a total role reversal since the morals issues tend to be the Republicans domain.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61945-2005Feb3.html

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/13/news_6129021.html

 

You dont know that. Im sure lots of times yes, but there are some people who just dont want kids getting ahold of this stuff

 

Who said that?

Dont worry about us we always get it worked out. Eh, mabye you should be worried, when our economy hicupps its been known to have big effects on lesser developed nations. haha

You should honestly be looking at yourself a little more instead of picking on lil ol america, seems like you have some unproven stereotypes about the USA.

 

OOoh, boy, if it weren't forbidden to start political flamewars you'd SO get it right now... kidding, I'm a friendly liberal troll.

But I still need to make you think of yourself as well. Simply consider WHO placed most governments in those "lesser developed nations" and controls them even to this day - and you'll have someone who has part of the blame.
You always get it "worked out", you say. I'd love to ask the american working class about this - and really, the global economy is VERY far away from being "worked out".
I'm sure your life in the first world is so very comfy, but laughing about your economic hiccups' effect on our economies is not a very nice thing to do. And threatening as if you control them! Come on, man.
I myself have no stereotypes about America, but if I followed the ones many people outside have, your post would SURELY validate them.

Really, man, respect for other people's countries is the first way to show respect for your own. You can't ask to stop stereotypes about the US and then belittle Latin America. It's not respectful to anyone - the latin americans here, or your fellow americans here either.

Now, if you will, let's stop the political banter and continue talking about videogames, the ESRB, and retail, shall we?

 

One more Politics post and this topics locked.

 

Why are politic's forbidden?

 

Because someone way up high in the chain of command said so. The mere mortals that moderators are can only but tell you that we will lock all topics that fall into any political, religious and sexuality debate!

 

Understood.
I just needed to defend Latin America from some of those misguided comments - I realise I was somewhat out of line, but things needed to be cleared.

Sorry.

Let's continue videogame discussion.

 

offcourse let us discuss this great discussion about videogames.

 

With left wing i meant guys like michael moore, the green party, etc.....

I say, the democrats arent even near to the left, they are what is called "right-center" or just a light right wing.

Man you just`ve to see what hillary has said about all this. That dumb bitch, go find a real job ma`am!. Those lawyers, nah, they are the common muck of the law: those guys in the 80 were the ambulance chasers, in the 90 the corporate blammers and now they`ve found their "easy money" in the game industry. It doesnt surprises me, after all they are always after the most succesful bussines.

At least dubya and his crew are on our side :smt082


PD: whats the deal with "latin"? I dont speak latin, and theres no country with that name in the world. Shit, in fact english has almost the same amount of words taken from latin as the spanish does.

 

Everyone thank JTI2K for giving me reason to close topic.