Poll: Xbox 360 HDMI

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by ASSEMbler, Mar 30, 2007.

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Will all 360 units get a hdmi port?

  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    What do you think the chances are that the normal 360 will get this as standard?
     
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    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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  3. sabre470

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    It's a bit sad that the HDMI port comes only on a premium SKU as even the lowest SKU on PS3 has it defacto.

    This is a significant upgrade to the box, personally I think they are making far more too much modifications on the new generation consoles:

    - 360 HDMI, plus future IPTV version
    - Wii (New version with DVD Playback)
    - PS3 PSX2???

    They are supposed to be standard all along, this is getting ridiculous, cause you can't upgrade your current box like a PC.

    At least when Sony makes a new version of a console like PSTwo, they don't add things you can't get on your older console, like the network adapter or infrared port...

    Coming back to the main subject of this thread, HDMI should be standard on all the new boxes and MS should offer an upgrade path for existing owners of Xbox who want HDMI, send your 360, pay $50 and get a new one with HDMI. Expensive operation I know but really Elite model is a bit of a joke. MS playing Sony now??? Butthey still can sell refurbs.

    Sabre
     
  4. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    personally i don't see much use in HDMI on a x360 without HDDVD drive... you already have VGA and Component around...
     
  5. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    Karsten: It's convienience, I suppose.

    Sabre: Yes, but surely the PS3 20GB is more expensive than the Xbox360 Core? Plus: not everybody wants it, nobody really needs it and people who actually DO care would buy the Elite whether or not the lower specs had it, IMO. Note: if you have an HDMI port, it may be likely you've forked out a lot for a television, and you're even more likely to be the person who buys the highest-premium pack available.

    Finally, surely the Elite is a stopgap version whilst they clear out the regular 360 Premium? (noting that HDMI WILL get used in at least the higher-end 360 as confirmed by Microsoft, combined with rumours that there will be a component-HDMI switchover box for older systems and the basic model for those that want them).
     
  6. Twimfy

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    My HD TV doesn't feature component input and it's a Toshiba model which turns out to be non 360 VGA compliant (works with my tablet fine however.)

    An HDMI connection would be very useful for me, as I can't afford an other TV.
     
  7. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    wow :D so you're lucky :)

    HD tv with only HDMI are quite rare... how big is it?
     
  8. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    wii with DVD playback is something in line with the Panasonic Q. no reason to be bitter on that lads.

    I ll be frank though, fuck HDMI. If it weren't for HDCP, i don't see a practical advantage to it. I ve seen component do 1080p and it was FINE
     
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  9. mairsil

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    That's all well and good, but not every TV with component input accepts a 1080p signal through it, even if it does through HDMI. Quite frankly, the vast majority of TV's only accept a 1080p signal through HDMI, not component or VGA.

    I am curious to see if a component-to-HDMI adapter would be made. Technically, as long as the games never require HDCP, then I see no reason that they cannot make a simple plug that outputs to HDMI.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    Oops, didn't know that actually. Now I see the big fuss!

    I thought that due to the whole "unlimited horizontal scanlines" of the TV, there was no reason and no cap on that would limit resolution over component o_O Stupid TV makers!

    Your second point now.. well why would they go through a whole half-assed mobo revision just for HDMI if an equally good solution could be sourced from the custom AV port? I think it's bound to have *some* difference , don't you think? o_O
     
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  11. mairsil

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    Well, that is what we don't know. It could be technically possible, but prohibitively expensive to create such an adapter for the existing 360's. On the other hand, there could be some output problem which actually prevents them from creating an adapter that plugs directly into the AV port. If the system can output 1080p via component, I would imagine that it should be able to do so via an HDMI adapter too. If nothing else, they could always make a standalone component-to-HDMI converter (hopefully cheaply).
     
  12. macwest

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    I believe M$ has the right idea. Not everyone wants or needs HDMI so why include the extra cost in all units. The better idea would be to lower cost on core. This would open them up to more of a market were people can not afford the higher cost systems. At the rate of sales Wii will dominate both 360 and PS3. While the controls are nice and unique, I believe this will only hold added value for a while, the biggest part is cost. Most people and I believe it will get even bigger do not have the extra to spend on luxeries. The US house market, no matter how downplayed, is a major factor here and as such most familys are rethinking how they spend there money and at this time 500 or more is just to expensive. Now 100 or 200 well maybe especially if the whole family will enjoy it. Another part is if parens are buying this you have to look at the number of games and type. I know if I was on a short budget and wanted a game system for my kid I would probly look at a PS2 or xbox 1. Since it has the most games on the market and both can be had for under $100 making it very cost effective.
     
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    36" Not very big but it's quite modern only a year old If I recall. Like I said it does have the VGA and regular RGB and scart inputs just no component which I find very weird.
     
  14. Taucias

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    I don't see the point. It won't support the DRM part of HDMI supposedly, nor improve the picture.

    I guess the only real use would be for people with only HDMI inputs on their TVs. :shrug:
     
  15. Barc0de

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    Jim, it might just be a point-to-point selling point against the PS3 more than anything else.
     
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    Is it even possible to transcode 1080p over component to HDMI remotely cheaply? I'm pretty sure it's not... component is analogue, hdmi is digital, it isn't like you are just re-arranging the wires or something.
     
  17. karsten

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    my one is weirder for sure :D rgb scart + composite and VGA but NO component :p
     
  18. mairsil

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    Yup, pretty much the different input is the only issue, though some people can see the difference between an analog and digital signal. As I said, a lot of TV's do not support 1080p over component and only about half a dozen support it over VGA.
     
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