Pre-production SNES cartridge. Fake or real?

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  1. d4s

    d4s Robust Member

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    http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230299038279

    Found this on gamesniped.
    I had to bail out at around $100, unfortunately. This cartridge bears some resemblance to the carts that were shown with the SNES prototype around 1989, namely rounder edges on the back and the lack of "hinges" (I'm lacking the appropriate term here) on top of the cart.

    I don't believe it is a bootleg for the following reason:
    Pilotwings contains a DSP1. Even though this chip was cloned later on (I believe around 1993-1994), the game would probably have become unfeasible to copy by that time.

    Any thoughts on this?
     
  2. Rawit

    Rawit Spirited Member

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    Maybe early Japanese carts share the same case? I don't know if it's costly to change the mold of a case, but I figure if this is official, this kind of case might have been used in the first run of certain games.

    The cartridge can also be easily faked of course, using a bootleg case with an original Pilotwings board. The thing I find a bit suspicious is that the label doesn't seem to fit (the corners are different), and looks it belongs on a normal cartridge case. I'm not saying the seller is a fraud of course, but it can easily be done.

    The case looks high quality however, and doesn't have the cheap mold look like some N64 bootlegs. I'm curious how the board looks, if there are EPROMS on it, or a date written somewhere.
     
  3. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    The Super Famicom logo looks different than the final design. It seems to look more block like. Either that or it's a bad picture or scan.

    Yakumo
     
  4. Alchy

    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Sorry to go OT a bit here, but do you have any images/scans of bootleg N64 carts? I've never seen one but apparently a few did exist.
     
  5. Rawit

    Rawit Spirited Member

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    Alchy Illustrious Member

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    Huh. I think I had seen that before, actually, many many years ago. Thanks for the link!
     
  7. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    Even if he's telling the truth and he got it from someone he thinks works at Nintendo, it doesn't mean that person is telling the truth or not just an ignorant Nintendo employee. Lots of bootleg case molds are relatively unique, and if this were pre-production, Nintendo probably wouldn't photocopy a production label.

    He probably got it with this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230299039066
    and assumed it was something special.
     
  8. Rawit

    Rawit Spirited Member

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    Is there anything special about the Super Famicom shown in the auction? Except for the controller with different and messed up buttons?
     
  9. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Nope, although I am assuming by "Mint in box" he means there is a Mint (of the peppermint sweet kind) in the box. I've seen better looking boxes in the Junk area of Hard off less then $50.

    Different and messed up buttons you say? Well given the buttons are molded with tabs so that they will only fit in the correct position so you can't swap the yellow and red buttons as it won't fit, the arse monkey that decided to modify or fix his joypad must have broken the tabs to make them fit, hence the A button looking mashed in.

    If anyone is interested I have a cartridge that has Final Fantasy 64 written on it, I can't test it as I don't have a N64 and it's not like I could easily walk into a Hard Off and buy one for Y1000 or anything, they are really hard to find. I don't have a tool to open it so I can't show you the board full of EPROMS! But I got it direct from someone who worked at Sqauresoft JAPAN!!!!11! Well when I say worked, I mean some girl saw someone across a platform who worked at Sqauresoft, well he looked like he did and with that many people the law of averages means that someone she saw probably worked at Squaresoft, and her boyfriend had a brother who had a friend and his friends friend friend knew someone who like taking his dog for a walk and that dog fought another dog (again probably a Sqauresoft dog) who dropped a piece of grey plastic that was bound to be the long lost Final Fantasy 64. Only Y10000, no questions asked, cash in a brown paper bag hidden under the 3rd tree on the 2nd path in the park next to the lake which is about a dozen stops north of a station somewhere in north Tokyo.
     
  10. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    jamtex you lie. I m the current sole owner of the said development cartridge.
     
  11. Trenton_net

    Trenton_net AKA SUPERCOM32

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    Nothing special. Just a used console.

    The only thing that would make this a better offer is if this console was unused/brand new (which it isn't)
     
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  12. ASSEMbler

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    Bootleg probably. There's no warning on the back to not eat/wash the cart.
     
  13. Quzar

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    That doesn't mean it's a bootleg, just a pre-production edible washable cart. They abandoned the project because people reported them to be too gamey.
     
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  14. Alchy

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  15. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    funny though I will argue that "Mint in box" means the product is mint. mint in mint box would be brand new product in brand new box. :)
     
  16. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    I even doubt the item is mint, probably scuffed and scratched in places.
     
  17. WolverineDK

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    [​IMG]

    Fake or not fake ? who knows, I don´t.
     
  18. MottZilla

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    My favorite is the warning not to feed your cartridge to crocodiles.

    I agree the cartridge is nothing special. His SFC auction claimed the SFC was the predecessor to the US NES. So he clearly is retarded.
     
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