Is tehre any difference at 3.0 speeds? What one shoul i go for? I have an issue that Ebuyer sold me a shuttle saying it would work with the prescott turns out it doesnt. So i now either try and get a return on it (a big bitch of a time im sure) OR sell/swap my sealed Prescott 3.0. But whats better the Prescott or the Northwood?! Paulo
... Well if you need an extra furnace a Pres(hot)cott is great :smt042. At 3 ghz they are about equal in performance but the heat difference makes the Prescott a bad option unless you have a watercooling setup and even then I would still take the Northwood. You could probably take the 3 ghz Northwood to at least 3.2 if not 3.4 ghz on air easily anyways. At 3.4 ghz the Prescott begins to beas out the Northwood but do you really want all that extra heat for the few extra points in Sandra it gets you?
What he said ^ By the way, what model shuttle is it? I have a SN41G2. They may have released a BIOS update that allows it to support Prescott. It may also depend on the Motherboard version.
I wouldn't trust any of those boards that only are compatible with it after a bios update because most of them were not designed to take the extra heat and voltage but it's up to you.
Exactly! If you are short on funds you could also use it to heat your house but then again it may crank up your electricity bills to rediculous levels!
Cool. I found someone who will swap me his northwood for the prescott. Only 1month old Northwood aparently never overclocked and so on. Now to get on to ebuyer about my memory that wasnt delivered.
Buy a 2.4 Northwood if you can find one, they clock at 3.0 and above on stock cooling @ <40C. Should cost about £60 by now. Compared to spending well over £100 on a Prescott and having to deal with twice as much heat dissipation... Also stear clear of socket 275 or whatever it's called, the new socket without pins. Very easy to fuck up installation, and also the socket is only seen as a temporary solution even by Intel.
It's 775 and if anyone is dumb enough to fuck up the installation they should probably buy a Dell :-D. I mean all you have to do is pay attention to how you are putting it and not use too much force.
Fair call, but you're talking to a guy who broke 3 Athlons thanks to dodgy heatsink installations. I'm clumsy, especially when "fixing" stuff drunk But either way, socket 775 doesn't really offer anything over 478, and is to be discontinued in the not too distant future. Why bother.
Well And so will socket 939 for socket 900 which will offer DDR2... Buy for now not what you are going to use in the future because it will be obsolete very quickly thanks to all these transitions etc.
If you go with 775 you're paying more for technology that doesn't do anything special above the old, and won't be compatible with the new. Why exactly would anyone buy 775?
New What new stuff? The only thing Intel seems to be working on is multicore processors which most likely will NOT go mainstream due to cost and cooling requirments. Socket 775 offers DDR2, PCI Express and some kick ass integrated sound. If you are refering to the lack of x86-64 instructions I see what you mean but we have to yet to see if they offer that much of a performance increase.
DDR2 costs more and performs equal or less than DDR from what I've seen. PCI express can be found on other cheaper sockets. Integrated sound? Is that really the best thing socket 775 has going for it? Integrated sound has always had massive problems with lack of shielding resulting in nasty interference, and I highly doubt this has been remedied in any on-board solution. Besides, last I checked all on-board sound were just codecs, that robbed you of CPU cycles. Has this actually changed yet?
Well DDR2 scales higher so it is attractive to people who want a high FSB. You are right about the performance right now but timings and clock speeds are obviously going to improve. PCI express is only available with socket 775 at the moment and if you haven't noticed AMD's aren't so cheap anymore ;-) .