PS1 or PSone - D-Terminal or Component?

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  1. Dot50Cal

    Dot50Cal Moderator

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    Does anyone know if there are any versions out there of the PS1 or PSone that support component (or d-terminal) out? I've tried a few american models but none support it. Anyone?
     
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    opethfan Dauntless Member

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    As far as I know, the D terminal pins only output RGB.

    The PS2 has an option to output YPbPr through there, but I don't think the PS1 can.
     
  3. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    You can always play PS1 games on a PS2 through component. I just found out the other day that they actually play in progressive scan for some reason - 720x240p. Though I expect that the "720" part is upscaled.
     
  4. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    It's not, TVs don't need to scale video horizontally since an analog TV theoretically has infinite horizontal resolution (to a TV 1x480 and 720x480 are the same thing because TV's don't deal with pixels). Most TV sets can only display something like 360 horizontal "pixels" (physical dots where color can be displayed, not game pixels) in reality though, but they can accept whatever. To digitally sample TV it's standard to sample a line into 720 computer pixels to accurately capture the ~360 dot signal.

    So if you capture a 720x480 video of a 256x240 (or whatever) game, it will have a strange pixel aspect ratio but it will sufficiently capture all the video data (and will look fine if you scale the video back to a 4:3 aspect). Even the Atari 2600 outputs a "720x480" video signal even though the game's resolution is like 160x192 which means each line can change the color state 160 times, and only 192 of the 240 lines are used.

    And yeah, the PSX only outputs RGB, sorry. You'd need a transcoder or PS2 (which has a built in transcoder).
     
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  5. opethfan

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    Yeah, if you go to the info screen on my TV it says "720x240", even though the SDTV input is in 4:3.
     
  6. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    That's pretty cool that your TV says 720x240, you can use it as a sanity-check to see if you're viewing progressive video.
     
  7. Dot50Cal

    Dot50Cal Moderator

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    I was afraid of that, I was hoping to test the quality vs ps1, ps2, and ps3 but I suppose PS2 can do. Thanks for the fast responses guys!
     
  8. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    I heard that some PS1 2D games, and even some PS2 2D games, don't work on the PS2 using component cables?

    Is it true?

    Maybe a resolution problem?
     
  9. opethfan

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    Nope, doesn't work that way. 1080i shows as 1920x540.
     
  10. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    That's crap then. Does your TV have less than 1080 lines natively? In that case it probably really is displaying 540 lines progressive and not deinterlacing heh.
     
  11. opethfan

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    Yeah it's WXGA, 768p.
     
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    I've played both 2D PS1 and PS2 games, and they all worked on the component cable.
     
  13. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    I have a D-Terminal cable but I have a PS3, however every PS1 game I've used works (or at leasts displays fine...). Same cable works on the PS2 and again the PS1 titles I have worked fine.
     
  14. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    No PS1/One unit outputs in Component. The original Japanese machines had a huge number of outputs, and there is a weird rumour on the web that suggests those models had component, but it's not true.

    BTW, the $20 PS3 component cable works great on a PS2. Great build quality and way cheaper than the PS2 component cables you see in places like Gamestop and Bestbuy.
     
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  15. opethfan

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    I got my official PS2 comp cables for $5 used from EB games. The same PS3 ones (which are silver at the ends instead of rgb) go for $25.
     
  16. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Bargain. I wish someone would break the Gamestop monopoly.
     
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