PS2 network adapter compatability issues?

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  1. Elijah

    Elijah Intrepid Member

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    Hi, I have a 750GB Seagate ST3750640A HDD that works fine with one of my network adapters, but not with the other. The one that it doesn't work with says "BA-005" on the PCB, and the other that it does work with says "BA-007". Is there any way to get it working with the BA-005 one?
     
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    Elijah Intrepid Member

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    Ugh, ignore this lol. For some reason, it only works on the "BA-005" adapter if I put the HDD on Master, as opposed to the Cable Select that works on the newer BA-007 one. The 750GB now works perfectly fine. Any ideas as to why this is the case however?
     
  3. APE

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    Master was the default jumper setting on the HDD that came with FFXI IIRC. Cable Select can do funny things with some IDE chipsets, particularly those that were never designed with Slave operation in mind.
     
  4. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    Funny you mention this, an Japanese hacker changed the drivers for the network adapter on the PS2 linux kernel and was able to use an HDD and an laptop on an SCPH-10000 with the linux kit.

    Anyway I know the network adapter supports Master/Slave devices but I really agree with you with cable select as I don't think the early ones support cable select at all.

    The external HDDs for PCMCIA consoles have an Master/Slave switch on their bottom, by the way. :shrug:
     
  5. Elijah

    Elijah Intrepid Member

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    How many revisions to the internal-style network adapter were there? I just got another adapter (with the same SCPH-10350 code) today which doesn't have any of the "BA" markings, and doesn't work with the 750GB even when the jumper is on Master. It works fine with a 40GB Maxtor however.

    Edit: It has a CXD9624GG chip on it dated to 2000, if that helps.
     
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    I've had 30+ network adapters pass through my hands, wish I had bothered to write down numbers.
     
  7. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    From what I noticed there's two variations of the MAC controller chip (CXD9624xxx or CXD9731xxx where xxx is three letters with the revision of the chip).

    Combinations of different PHY chips for the ethernet port also happen.


    SCPH-10190 - CXD9624GG + DP83846A (Late PCMCIA N.A.)
    SCPH-10281 - CXD9624AGG + DP83846A (Early 2003 USA N.A.)


    SCPH-10350 - CXD9624GG + DP83846A (JPN expansion bay, no modem)

    CXD9731 is found on most EU and North America N.A. units.

    The other PHY chip is the ST Micro STE100S which is present on most CXD9731 Network Adapters (and on all PS2 slims).

    The MAC controller type do affect the HDD performance and the earlier type is particularly picky with the HDDs that might work with it.
     
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    I've seen some clones too that were totally missing the Ethernet port connector but work fine with hdd's - e.g. you peel the sticker for the ethernet port and there's just a hole going straight to the pcb... totally useless.

    Also, there's the thicker USA adapters I've seen with the two ethernet(?) ports and then there's the slimmer ones with just the one port.
     
  9. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    From what i know, the Network Adapters with both Ethernet and Modem ports were only avaiable in the US. Europe and Japan got the Ethernet only model.

    [​IMG]

    The chinese clone model doesn't seem to have any of those, but on the other hand supports SATA HDs (but probably still limited to the IDE reading speeds).

    Found some interesting pics here, but the site is in russian:
    http://3www.by.ru/=ps2/ps2_hdd_install.htm#NA-PS2

    Seems like he's comparing the differences between the two official models. Also, his server has tons of files on the PS2: http://3www.by.ru/=ps2/


    And here we have pics of the "fake" chinese network adapter, still with the IDE connector:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mnbqazxcv/


    The SATA chinese one, poster here by Assembler:
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31429


    And to finish, a topic about using IDE to SATA converters on the original adapter:
    http://www.racketboy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25512
     
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  10. l_oliveira

    l_oliveira Officer at Arms

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    The chinese fakes (with PATA ports) use surplus of the CXD9731 chip. They usually come with an non functioning network port (no ethernet PHY or magnetics) and all have probably the exact same MAC ADDRESS.

    If I had one of these adapters I would try to populate the spaces (the board has the places for PHY, MAGNETICS and polarization caps/resistors and check if it works (probably would work just fine). Parts could be salvaged from an PS2 slim.

    Edit:

    linked photo appears to be an counterfeit network adapter which is based on an FPGA chip. That's very likely to have an mockup of a MAC controller instead of a real MAC.
     
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  11. HI_Ricky

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    old day, i have see the Y cable for ext HDD in some one company....

    btw , we can do M-F-F cable after on IDE port to do what we want :)
     
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