PS2 Slim scph-75001 modbo woes

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  1. Nully

    Nully Dauntless Member

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    I have a 1.93 modbo and cannot get this PS2 to boot any backups or PS1 backups. I've reinstalled it 4 times now, stripped the solder mask from the vias and have tried everything and it just will not work. Is there something extra I'm forgetting to do (something about a laser fix?). I installed two other of these into other models. The Matrix Infinity splash screen shows and I can get into the menu. Sometimes it will boot and say "Playstation 2" then it goes black and back to the home screen. Sometimes it will take me to the browser and say Playstation 2 disc, sometimes it will give me the red screen saying to insert a PS2 format disc. I tried two different brands of DVD-R and two different games that work fine in my jailbroken PS3. It plays retail PS2 games, but oddly it won't play a retail PS1 game USA or JP but I didn't test if it did before working on it. I'm not sure if the laser is just giving out as I don't have another to test.

    I'll try soldering directly to the IC tomorrow, but with SX supposed to allow PS1 backups I'm not sure that's going to do anything.
     
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    The goal is to get as low jitter as possible. So when you burn discs, you need to use good quality media, the media has to be properly supported by the drive and the drive also has to be decent.
    Do not simply follow the obsolete advise of burning at low speeds.

    Given that it will sporadically go to the PlayStation 2 screen and the PlayStation 2 logo is successfully decrypted and displayed, it may be bailing out because it cannot read the ELF from the disc.
    The optical block may be giving out or your discs are bad burns.

    You can try enabling the diagnosis option in the browser, before inserting the disc.

    There is no "laser fix" for this model.
     
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    Nully Dauntless Member

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    I’m using two different Sony brand DVD-R and like I said they boot fine in my PS3. The PlayStation burns are on Taiyo Yuden that work fine in my PS1s and PS3. I don’t have much experience with PS2 but like I said the other 2 PS2s I installed it into work just fine with the same discs, I guess the laser is giving out at this point. Thanks for the help.
     
  4. Mord.Fustang

    Mord.Fustang My goodness, it's nipley out!

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    Does it not work for DVD and CD backups? I've seen it before where it'll boot one but not the other.
     
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    Nully Dauntless Member

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    Neither work, DVDs sometimes work but not past the Playstation 2 logo where it sends me back to the home screen. CDs just read as audio CDs. My Japanese PS1 game will read as a "Playstation 2 disc" but when I press X it just takes me to a black screen then back to the browser. Haven't ever seen anything like it before.

    And I can even see the Matrix Infinity loader when the DVD loads etc. I don't think I could solder it any better, I'm using one of those magnification glasses you wear with 50x and checked everything with a multimeter for continuity/shorts and everything is fine. Wire length could be better, trying to figure out the best placement for these.
     
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    +1 on this............
     
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  7. sp193

    sp193 Site Soldier

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    A PS disc has different content. Shouldn't this be a modchip problem?
    Are you confident that this modchip is working well and the PS2 model is supported?

    Have you tried using another chip?
     
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    No, but it's from a batch of 10 I bought from Eurasia that 2 worked just fine in other models. I'll try a different chip tonight. It's a gh-040-02. Can someone find an install guide to be sure I'm not using an older one or something. NTSC.

    Edited with correct revision.

    Check this thread out, same situation.

    https://assemblergames.com/threads/help-troubleshoot-ps2-slim-with-modbo4-gh-040-02.57985/

    I found a forum post in Spanish that Google translate isn't giving the best result for. Something about an alternative point for this revision but it doesn't say which one it actually is just that it fixed my issue I'm having.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Update: I have another of the same model but different via locations. It's doing basically the same thing only this time I can get GTA: SA to the loading screen then after it fills it goes blacka nd says the disc can't be read and every other game is saying insert a Playstation 2 disc, I think these DVDs are just junk at this point and the PS3 was new enough to be able to handle them. Neither will play PS1 backups either, I really don't know whats going on, maybe both lasers are crap but the only working installs I have are using different ribbon locations so I can't swap them over unless I disassemble the drive assembly which I'll try now...

    2x 70001: Working fine
    2x 75001 with different board revisions: Running backups someitmes, having better success with 2x burn speed but GTA: SA still crashing after loading, no PS1 backup games working with taiyo yuden 2x,x4,x8,x16 burn speeds. Burnout 3 and a Pal disc are booting every time burned at 2x in the second revision board. PS1 games get read as PS1 but just go to a black screen until I reset the PS2.

    Picture of install (Y/SX removed before I took picture but it's where it should be)
    https://imgur.com/a/J5vW9UA

    Maybe a crosstalk issue, but I've reinstalled it so many times I just stopped caring about overlapping wires.
     
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  10. Mord.Fustang

    Mord.Fustang My goodness, it's nipley out!

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    Easy way to test those discs... Burn a generic DVD movie to a DVD. Or audio CD for CDs. You don't need a mod chip to test those.
     
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    Honestly, you're probably right with it being a media/burning issue at this point, these discs are probably 10 years old by now. I haven't installed a modchip in a PS2 in probably 4-6 years so I probably forgot how finicky it can be with media, especially with it's age now. I'll buy some new Verbatims and post an update, thanks for all the help!

    I just found a cake of Verbatim DVD+DL from the 360 days, but again these are probably 10 years old by now lol.

    EDIT: Definitely a media/laser issue, these discs are working and the old ones are working at lowest burn speed. PS1 games are booting after almost a solid minute of black screen then work completely fine.
     
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    Not all Verbatims are equal. Some were manufactured by top-tier manufacturers like MCC and Taiyo Yuden, while lower-tier manufacturers like CMC Magnetics also made some of them.

    For better burning effects, you should go with advice from burning enthusiast forums. Generally, we want to get as high-quality burns as possible.
    Burning at low speeds doesn't always result in the best burns (depending on the media), but might actually worsen it.
    Check that your writer has the latest firmware. Or at most, try another PC/writer.

    For PS games, the moment the disc type is detected wrong, it will never work because PS discs can only be booted by the PS driver (which will not be selected if the disc is detected as a PS2 CD).
     
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    Moser Baer India (MBI) also produce under verbatim brand, they never run in any of my PS2. No matter what burner i tried. CMC did at least run. But Taiyo Yuden are recommend. MCC got outsorced to MBI, CMC, Prodisc and FTI. They say its not a issue tho.

    If the retail package of verbatim cd/dvd says: "made in india" they come from MBI.
     
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    Figured I'd just post here instead of making another thread.

    Does anyone have a diagram using these to connect to instead of the BIOS pads for a cleaner look? I try to keep my install as aesthetic as possible (my previous install doesn't back that up) and I'm having a hard time on these slims. If not I guess I can just use a multimeter to see where they lead to but not sure if it's worth the effort. Any cleaner install tips would be appreciated, especially the vias. Have like 6 more of these to do lol.

    Actually this picture helps a lot as it is...

    Probably just need to buy some of the brush-on glue that all the cool kids are using.

    [​IMG]
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    https://imgur.com/a/JZvj5HR
     
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