Ps2 vs psp specs

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  1. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    The PS2 could absolutely emulate the DreamCast. Unless you have a specific reason for why it can't. You also can't seem to agree with yourself because first you doubt the PS2 can emulate the DreamCast but then later you flat out say it can't.

    Emulation can be done in different ways and the results can differ drastically. But the PS2 is no less capable of emulating the DreamCast than the PSP. Why you think there is some huge difference must be based on incorrect information.
     
  2. mathieulh

    mathieulh Problem Solver

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    I have a stupid question: Is there a point to this thread?
     
  3. smf

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    Well sure, you could even run PS2 Linux and compile a pure c++ based Linux based dreamcast emulator for it and it would technically work. But it would be pointless. I may be wrong, but I don't think anyone is ever going to go through the pain of trying to make a playable dreamcast emulator for the ps2. Even if they believed it would be possible (and that is debatable).
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Also that thread was made while this thread was being made. Its got zero history or actual action.

    Feels a bit like editing a Wikipedia page then creating your own website elsewhere to link as the source.
     
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  7. smf

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    There is an earlier post on this thread http://www.psx-place.com/threads/re...nt-for-playstation-2.20946/page-2#post-146189

    It starts "TnA I can't compile it, because I have no clue where to look at, on how to compile a core (for the PS2)"

    I'd have more faith if he came up with a proof of concept, ideas are worthless. Of course he's sure that his amazing idea that he hasn't tried to implement will work, it was his amazing idea after all & so it must work.

    I tend to assume all my ideas are dumb and then work to prove myself wrong. If I give up or fail then it's fine, it was a dumb idea anyway.
     
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  8. Anthony817

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    Lets not forget N64 emulation on the OG xbox is still problematic at best. I know people have compiled very compatible collections and released them, but still N64 emulation on Xbox is still nowhere near close to perfect. People thinking the PS2 will get there are delusional. Hell, even PSP N64 emulation had lots of issues. This reminds me of the dumb threads I used to make when I got into the community about a decade back. I guess we have all made cringe threads we regret. Give the guy a few more years to wise up and then he will see how futile things like this are.
     
  9. angelwolf71885

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    the psp is more powerful then the ps2 because the psp is portable and built of similar processor tech RISC but being portable built in screen and built in storage is why the PSP wins
     
  10. Durandal

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    What is this, 2006? Half the responses in this thread make me feel like I've been transported back in time and am communicating with smooth-brains.
     
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  11. megavolt85

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    :D really?
     
  12. sp193

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    Why not? Even if you talk about the CPU's clock speed alone, it's only approximately 10% slower. Even if that mattered, your emulator would only be approximately 10% slower.

    Now I cannot tell whether this thread has summoned trolls or what.
     
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    It might matter, if PSP can just about run at 100% then the PS2 would be 90%.

    PAL framerate is 17% slower than NTSC and people notice that.

    I'm looking forward to seeing someone doing it and proving me wrong.
     
  14. uyjulian

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    It would be nice to stop comparing hardware specs and start actual work.

    A simplistic way to do that would be to hook up a Raspberry Pi (US$25 for Model A+) to your TV with RetroPie software.
    Or, you can purchase a cheap US$50 PC/ from eBay or Aliexpress.
     
  15. megavolt85

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    because at most what you will achieve 1-5 fps

    only the silly person compares processors on clock rate
     
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    Yes, that was his point. I know English isnt your first language, so probably missed it. But the point was, basically any system can emulate any other. Being playable is another matter.
     
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    why then in general the emulator is necessary if on it it is impossible to play
    it is waste of time
     
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    Yes, we all agree.

    But it was a response to the PSP being more powerful because the PS2 cant emulate the dreamcast.

    It was answered that the PS2 could emulate the dreamcast, but there reason it hasnt been done is because it would be so slow, so its a waste of time and not that its not been done because its not possible.

    I can understand it being hard to follow, this thread gives me a headache - just like the last time on a similar topic.
     
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  19. MottZilla

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    Bad_Ad84 sums it all up right there. The original poster started out with some nonsense about things being "more powerful" than another. It all was very pointless. Then some technical things were said and the OP was never heard from again.

    I didn't mean so in the sense that they would offer the same performance running an emulator of the DreamCast. I was pointing out that the PS2 is also capable of running a DreamCast emulator that no one would actually use.
     
  20. megavolt85

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    sory guy, how say Bad_Ad84, English isnt my native language
    now I see that you wanted to tell
     
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