PS3 Error 80010017 - Not Loading PS3 Games

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  1. TwoScoops

    TwoScoops Active Member

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    So I've looked around the net a bunch and most of the information I'm finding is people modding/hacking their systems or something. I'm not trying to do that and it doesn't appear that someone was trying to on this system. As far as I can tell at least.

    I'm surprised there has been no mention of this error on this forum.

    PS3 60 Gb Model. CHECHA01

    Picked this up as a YLOD fix. I've got the system up and running and all seems to be fine. Updated to Firmware 4.60.

    Except when I try to start a PS3 game it goes into a black screen for a moment and then comes back with the 80010017 error which I think said "An error occurred during the start operation."

    It will read and run PS1, PS2 games and Blu Ray Movies! I was able to play a game downloaded from PSN.

    Firmware is up to date. I have done the full 4 hour format that some people suggest and that did nothing. I cleaned the lens and that did nothing. I've tried the PSN Activate and Deactivate thing which did nothing. I've installed the BD Logic Board on a different working Blu Ray Drive and it still had the same error. And I installed the Blu Ray Drive from the faulty logic board system into a different system and logic board and it worked fine.

    So something is up with the logic board I assume. I've seen some mentions of the NAND chip.

    Thoughts?

    Someone said that replacing the NAND chip worked for them. Is this where the encryption key is at or is that a different chip. Are there other options?
     
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  2. kneehighspy

    kneehighspy <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    i think its the bd logic board. i have heard of folks removing the nand from the bad logic and placing it on a replacement logic and that working. curious if you could marry your old drive to a new drive and if that would work?
     
  3. TwoScoops

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    My understanding is that you can't re-marry a Blu-Ray Drive logic board to the PS3 MOBO with anything beyond 3.55 firmware? Or that the shady software you need to re-marry it only works on the old firmware.

    What you said is the other option apparently. If you replace the logic board, you have to swap the NAND chip because it has the special key that is paired with your MOBO.

    Issue is that the NAND chip is a BGA style chip I guess. Sooo obviously the proper tool to remove this would be a Hot Air Station? But I don't have that. So yea I don't know. I found a used BMD-001 logic board for $5 and ordered some liquid flux. Current ghetto plan is to see if I can get it hot enough with a heat gun to remove without damaging the chip I guess? Unless someone wants to donate a hot air station or has some other trick haha

    But yea this issue has been extremely frustrating. Even though the rest of the system seems to be fully functioning and fine, if it can't play PS3 games then obviously its not very good.

    Side note: I've had this lingering dreadful thought in the back of my mind recently that I maaaaaay have updated the firmware on the PS3 while the drive from the other system was installed? I can't remember. But this would have happened before I knew about the drive being paired with the system. I vaguely remember when I first got the system running, it would only read PS3 discs and only in the XMB. So I think I may have swapped the other drive into it to test that one? And it worked even less (obviously because it isn't paired, I didn't know at the time) and then was like well F it might as well update the firmware while I'm sitting here.

    Sigh. The more I write about it the more I think it may have happened. But the drive that was in during the firmware update, from the other system, still works in that other system. So confusing. Does this make it sound like maybe if Sony issues another firmware update that maybe it would work again? So annoying that you can't just like, rerun a firmware or roll back.

    *rips hair out*
     
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  4. RaZiel

    RaZiel Enthusiastic Member

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    That is a logic board error, seems someone remarried it before and didn't put in a BRD prior to taking it out of factory service mode and restoring the DRL files needed for BRD. See if a bluray movie will work. If not this is your culprit for sure. If you don't restore the DRL files you can you use the drive just not for BRD
     
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    Yea Blu Ray Movies seem to work.
     
  6. kneehighspy

    kneehighspy <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    yeah i think you need to be at 3.55 to remarry. i think RaZiel is probably onto something, could already be an improper remarry. may have to look into ode (shudder) if you wanna cheap fix to get it to play games again, but if you used the latest firmware while updating, that option may be out the door.

    let us know what you do or find out.
     
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    Ordered a replacement BD logic board which should arrive any day now. Going to attempt to swap the NAND chip I think and see what happens.

    Hope I'm able to do it. I'll update this once something happens.
     
  8. Riki

    Riki Peppy Member

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    You can not swap BGA things without special equipment. All fats are downgradeable with hardware flasher though. afaik.
     
  9. TwoScoops

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    Fats with 3.55 or earlier firmware from what I've seen, which this one is not.

    And yea BGA chip. That's why we'll see what happens. Mwuahahahaha Challenge Accepted!

    And actually I think you need some extra stuff that's pricey for doing the remarry thing anyway.. which is a bunch more money than I even paid for the system.

    So it's all just a fun learning experience and worst comes to worst, I damage the other BD logic board I got experimenting and I just try to sell the system as is, which I'd bet wouldn't be worth much.. so I might as well just keep it for parts.
     
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    Update: BGA NAND swap unsuccessful. I actually got most of the chip off but it looks like a couple pads were lifted. I think it might go better having learned from that first time.

    OH WELL. 80010017 Error is a piece of crap. Now to decide what to do with this PS3. Still desperately want to pick up a hot air station.
     
  11. Gamer2020

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    I think you are best off getting a hardware flasher and downgrading to try to remarry a new drive in. It will be a little pricy but at least the hardware flasher has other uses.
     
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