PS3 to support AVCHD

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  1. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Translation doesn't show up. Looks like it is just another handheld video camera format introduced by Sony/Panasonic. Nice for HD content, but it's a Sony format so it is probably doomed to fail. :lol:
     
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    "AVCHD (Advanced Video Codec High Definition) is a new digital optical media format introduced by Sony and Panasonic. It is a 3.2-inch (80mm) disc similar to Mini CD and MiniDVD, and is being positioned to compete with handheld video camera recording formats like MiniDV. As its name implies, MPEG-4 AVC (H.264) video compression is used. Audio can be encoded in 5.1 AC-3 or 7.1 linear PCM. Transport stream used is MPEG-2. Sony claims the format has a total storage time of about 20 minutes of high-definition video using "average" bitrates. By comparison, today's 80mm discs can store 30 minutes of standard-definition MPEG-2 video, and MiniDV tapes can store a full 60 minutes of either standard-definition DV or high-definition HDV video."
     
  4. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    sounds like a waste of time. 30 minutes ? come on !

    Yakumo
     
  5. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Sounds like your interweb is broken.
     
  6. Alchy

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    5.1 or 7.1 audio on a handheld DVR? Um, why? It's not like it could ever record that number of channels in an effective way.
     
  7. toubabokoomi

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    Useless. Why is Sony persistant in releasing these "special" products? Do they have their thumbs up their butt that high?
     
  8. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    I'd say so. Looks like they still live in the land where number matter. There is no way in hell a video camera can make good use of 5.1 or 7.1 audio. They aren't even that great at standard stereo !

    Yakumo
     
  9. karsten

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    well think to it as highest resolution... that mean that HD video with dolby makes 30 mins, normal definition with stereo sound would probably fit in the disc 4 times more video putting it at 120 mins or such, not bad at all IMO.

    You doesn't have to use the extreme quality setups always :D
     
  10. madhatter256

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    YOu can always record at 2channel stereo and make the battery in your camcorder last longer, too.
     
  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Another format? WTF? is not enough the UMD is dying a horrible death, you got to bring yet another useless optical media, sony?

    MiniDV all the way yo!:nod:
     
  12. Taucias

    Taucias Site Supporter 2014,2015

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    Jesus Christ, Sony cocks things up often but how is support for another format a bad thing? All this constant ragging on them grows old.
     
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    dunno, maybe because it's a useless one that comes straight from their imposing attitude that will cost more and that will limit the user to sony products only at the place of freeing him and enhancing the experience?

    Or maybe something else.
     
  14. sayin999

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    This format is ridculess. And if they think film students will possibly even try and use it they must be joking. It's just one of their gimicky formats that they try and have exclusive control over. Sony belives heavly in apples style of acessorising and using only their technology.
     
  15. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Dude, saying the PS3 dualshock is a Wiimote ripoff while in fact is an 7 years old sidewinder ripoff, that rage againt sony.

    Another format is just absurd, they already launched the UMD against all odds, and guess what? there was no miracle: the whole "movies on the go" concept is over, and stores are pulling UMDs out of the shelves.

    MiniDV is still good enough, and while is aging, replacing it with another near-obsolete format as the optical one, instead of just an HDD or flash memory, thats not a smart move...
     
  16. Alchy

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    I think you're not understanding the application for this, it's for handheld cameras, nothing to do with UMDs at all. As far as I know there isn't a dedicated high-def disc recordable format. It's not surprising that Sony are releasing this.
     
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  17. Yakumo

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    they are only releasing it because last year the released a high def video camera that is selling like shit due to the cost. Nobody else has bothered yet. I still see it as another doomed medium.

    Yakumo
     
  18. Alchy

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    The video camera you're talking about is the $3500 one, right? I doubt Sony expected to sell many, it's just early adopter stuff at the moment. The fact is that handheld video cameras will move to higher resolutions over time just like digital cameras did. Given the inclusion in the Blu-Ray standard, I could see AVCHD's becoming reasonably popular, they're certainly easier for the average customer who wants to redistribute family videos than flash or HDD (where you'd have to extract to PC, then burn on something else like = hassle and beyond most people's technical know-how). Mini-DVDs sold pretty well despite being inferior to DV cassette, this is just the high-def equivalent. It won't be obvious whether it's a serious contender for years, because high-def video cameras won't be available to a wide consumer base for years either.

    Sony are making a lot of bad business decisions lately, but this doesn't honestly look like one to me.
     
  19. Taucias

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    It would seem to me that Sony are trying to make the PS3 a Pandora's box for new formats. As long as they are "free extras" then that is fine with me. Will it influence my purchases in the future based on that format being one supported by a console I might own? Perhaps. It all depends on market penetration and take-up, and whether the format meets my needs. As Alchy says, AVCHD make sense to the average consumer, who won't want to fork out several hundred on flash media.

    It will be interesting to see what firmware upgrades will be made available during the PS3's life cycle. Despite the mistakes made with UMD, the PSP has had some excellent firmware support which was not just security based (though I am sure the added features were sugar spoons to get said updates to be acceptable to consumers).
     
  20. Shadowlayer

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    Importing stuff from an HDD too difficult? dude it wont be harder than what people do everyday with their iPods. On the other hand, having a fixed format like this AVCHD is a hasstle since if your family/friends dont have a compatible player you're screwed.

    Plus the 20min limit just sucks donkey balls...
     
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